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CONLANG  September 2014, Week 1

CONLANG September 2014, Week 1

Subject:

Re: De-Lurking in preparation for autumn

From:

Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:19:57 -0700

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The world was so much simpler when I was ignorant!

I just wanted a little language to play with. One a bit more capable than
Toki Pona, but not as hard to learn as a real natlang. So I'm using words
like "minimal" in the informal or colloquial sense, although I'm referring
to "formal grammar" in the formal sense.

I guess what I might try is to just build some interesting, _simple_
conlang sentences and then try to formalize their grammar. And as I go I
can modify the conlang sentences to better fit the formal rules, and modify
the formal rules to better fit the sentences, and by a process of
successive refinement (or maybe better called, "back and forth fiddling")
I'll end up with a "minimal" grammar (in the colloquial sense) that works
reasonably well and allows for an acceptable translation of something like
one of  the Edgar Rice Burroughs "Princess of Mars" novels.

--gary

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:22 AM, And Rosta <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
---

>
> Finding a way to measure rule complexity is an unsolved problem (afaik) so
> is worth working on. But as I have said to Patrik, finding the simplest
> possible grammar is a mostly solved problem, and an engelang that sets
> itself this goal without considering what is already known is likely to
> reinvent the wheel and to reinvent an inferior wheel to the one we already
> have.
>
> --And.
>

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