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CONLANG  September 2014, Week 1

CONLANG September 2014, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Alien sexology (was: Native american altlangs)

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MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 7 Sep 2014 11:22:29 -0400

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How many parents does a virus have, taking as it does, part of its genetic
material from its host?

stevo

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> 2014-09-07 14:18 GMT+02:00 Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> >
> > If models where an individual has three or more parents are probably
> > impractical, how about going in the opposite direction: does anyone have
> an
> > interesting system wherein individuals have fewer than two parents?
> >
>
> I had misread it as "fewer than one parent" and was trying to figure out
> how would it be. Maybe some alien's parent divides himself into two
> individuals before reproducing. :-)
>
> Anyway, if you believe in life single origin, your number of ancestors will
> eventually shrink to one as you go further and further into the past.
>
>
> > As few as *one* parent is uninteresting in this respect, that's just
> > asexual reproduction.  But the honeybee system is somewhere in between:
> > females lay eggs, males fertilise them; both unfertilised and fertilised
> > eggs are viable, but unfertilised (i.e. parthenogenetic) eggs become
> males
> > and fertilised ones become females.  Of course there are further
> > complications: females come in two castes, one (normally) nonreproductive
> > and one (normally) that there's only one of at a time.  And the honeybee
> > has around 18 different sex alleles distributed randomly in the
> population;
> > the requirement to become a female is in fact that you get two
> *different*
> > alleles, so some fertilised eggs by bad luck get two copies of the same
> > allele and so turn male anyway -- except that the workers detect and
> > destroy them first, presumably so as not to have the hive overrun with
> > drones.
> >
> > (So how many parents does a honeybee have?  If "sometimes one, sometimes
> > two" isn't a good enough answer, if you want à number, I'd say the golden
> > ratio: the number of ancestors of a bee  n  generations back grows like
> the
> > golden ratio to the  n-th power, whereas for us mammals with two parents
> > this number grows like 2^n.  Is there a viable system where this number
> is
> > even less?)
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
> Até mais!
>
> Leonardo
>

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