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Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them

From:

"Krista D. Casada" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:30:18 +0000

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 Koryak. It was called Mucgun kalikal : kalikal jejgucewngukin ngujegewkinek klassuk cawcuva-skolak.

Krista C.
________________________________________
From: Constructed Languages List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Adam Walker [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 1:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them

Kalmyk?

Adam

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Krista D. Casada <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It is pretty fascinating; a book of Ossetian fairy tales landed on my desk
> not long ago. One minority language of the former USSR really stumped us
> for a bit because instead of being in Cyrillic script it used a modified
> Romanization system that only lasted for a few years in the 1930s. I forget
> which language it was, though I believe it was one of the smaller ones that
> is now transliterated beginning with a K and was/is spoken in Siberia. I
> believe it might have been a reader for new literates.
> ________________________________________
> From: Constructed Languages List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf
> of MorphemeAddict [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:30 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them
>
> Krista, it seems to me that you have my dream job. I hope you enjoy it.
>
> If I encounter a book for sale and can't identify the language, that very
> fact makes it desirable. It doesn't happen very often. The last it did, the
> book, which I thought was Persian, turned out to be Dari, according to the
> Russian colophon. I was close.
> I used to have lists of short words to help me distinguish i.a. the Indian
> languages in Devanagari (Hindi, Sanskrit, Marathi, et al.). I've probably
> lost that list.
>
> stevo
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Krista D. Casada <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Actually, I do this about five days a week. I catalog foreign language
> > books for my university library, and my job is to match them with the
> > appropriate records in the OCLC catalog, an online database used by
> > libraries around the world. Today I am mainly working with Japanese and
> > Turkish books that have been donated. I don't speak either language,
> > although I know a little bit of both. For older Japanese and Chinese
> books,
> > I keep a file of frequently-used characters to help me approximate titles
> > (due to budget constraints I don't have a scanner), and occasionally get
> to
> > narrow down my choices by entering page numbers or publication years.
> >
> > You all are about to convince me to ask for a raise.
> >
> > Krista
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Constructed Languages List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf
> > of Gary Shannon [[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:53 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them
> >
> > This would be easier, I think, if you only had to teach how to recognize
> > them in print. The foreign language section of one of my local used book
> > stores often has books filed in the wrong language, but it's easy to see
> > how a few simple rules would go a long way toward separating, say,
> Spanish
> > and Portuguese. If it looks like Spanish, but there's a "ã" anywhere in
> he
> > text, it's Portuguese.
> >
> > It would probably be pretty easy to come up with a list of words or
> letter
> > sequences that are very common in one particular language but do not
> occur
> > in any other language. And of course, you could include "shapes" in that
> > list for Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Burmese, Arabic, etc.
> >
> > Take a look at http://whatlanguageisthis.com/
> >
> > --gary
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, everyone!
> > >
> > > If you were offered a one-billion-dollars job to teach 007 how to
> > recognize
> > > the top 100 most spoken languages with no doubt, but still not having
> to
> > > speak all of them, would you accept it? What would be your teaching
> > method?
> > > Suppose you have six months to accomplish the goal and that 007 is a
> good
> > > student with full time available to do whatever you want to learn it
> > during
> > > those 6 months.
> > >
> > > And what if the 20 most spoken sign languages were included in the
> list,
> > > would you still accept that job?
> > >
> > > If you don't have those skills yourself, suppose that they give you an
> > > additional month before beggining teaching for you to develop them. :-)
> > >
> > > Até mais!
> > >
> > > Leonardo
> > >
> >
>

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