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CONLANG September 2014, Week 2

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Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them

From:

Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:48:27 -0500

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The word you're looking for is factoum.

Adam

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> 2014-09-12 20:46 GMT+02:00 Krista D. Casada <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > It is pretty fascinating;
>
>
> It's certainly the perfect job for a conlanger. Much more than my job as a
> physicist who simulates magnetic colloids... Well, in any case, I believe
> conlangers generally have a very wide range of interests and end up
> studying all sorts of things. Aren't you all known in your circles as
> people who know everything, or who know a little about everything, or at
> least who have a wide useless knowledge? :-)
>
> Até mais!
>
> Leonardo
>
> a book of Ossetian fairy tales landed on my desk not long ago. One minority
> > language of the former USSR really stumped us for a bit because instead
> of
> > being in Cyrillic script it used a modified Romanization system that only
> > lasted for a few years in the 1930s. I forget which language it was,
> though
> > I believe it was one of the smaller ones that is now transliterated
> > beginning with a K and was/is spoken in Siberia. I believe it might have
> > been a reader for new literates.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Constructed Languages List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf
> > of MorphemeAddict [[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:30 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them
> >
> > Krista, it seems to me that you have my dream job. I hope you enjoy it.
> >
> > If I encounter a book for sale and can't identify the language, that very
> > fact makes it desirable. It doesn't happen very often. The last it did,
> the
> > book, which I thought was Persian, turned out to be Dari, according to
> the
> > Russian colophon. I was close.
> > I used to have lists of short words to help me distinguish i.a. the
> Indian
> > languages in Devanagari (Hindi, Sanskrit, Marathi, et al.). I've probably
> > lost that list.
> >
> > stevo
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Krista D. Casada <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, I do this about five days a week. I catalog foreign language
> > > books for my university library, and my job is to match them with the
> > > appropriate records in the OCLC catalog, an online database used by
> > > libraries around the world. Today I am mainly working with Japanese and
> > > Turkish books that have been donated. I don't speak either language,
> > > although I know a little bit of both. For older Japanese and Chinese
> > books,
> > > I keep a file of frequently-used characters to help me approximate
> titles
> > > (due to budget constraints I don't have a scanner), and occasionally
> get
> > to
> > > narrow down my choices by entering page numbers or publication years.
> > >
> > > You all are about to convince me to ask for a raise.
> > >
> > > Krista
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Constructed Languages List [[log in to unmask]] on
> behalf
> > > of Gary Shannon [[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:53 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: THEORY: Recognizing languages without really learning them
> > >
> > > This would be easier, I think, if you only had to teach how to
> recognize
> > > them in print. The foreign language section of one of my local used
> book
> > > stores often has books filed in the wrong language, but it's easy to
> see
> > > how a few simple rules would go a long way toward separating, say,
> > Spanish
> > > and Portuguese. If it looks like Spanish, but there's a "ã" anywhere in
> > he
> > > text, it's Portuguese.
> > >
> > > It would probably be pretty easy to come up with a list of words or
> > letter
> > > sequences that are very common in one particular language but do not
> > occur
> > > in any other language. And of course, you could include "shapes" in
> that
> > > list for Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Burmese, Arabic, etc.
> > >
> > > Take a look at http://whatlanguageisthis.com/
> > >
> > > --gary
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Leonardo Castro <
> [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, everyone!
> > > >
> > > > If you were offered a one-billion-dollars job to teach 007 how to
> > > recognize
> > > > the top 100 most spoken languages with no doubt, but still not having
> > to
> > > > speak all of them, would you accept it? What would be your teaching
> > > method?
> > > > Suppose you have six months to accomplish the goal and that 007 is a
> > good
> > > > student with full time available to do whatever you want to learn it
> > > during
> > > > those 6 months.
> > > >
> > > > And what if the 20 most spoken sign languages were included in the
> > list,
> > > > would you still accept that job?
> > > >
> > > > If you don't have those skills yourself, suppose that they give you
> an
> > > > additional month before beggining teaching for you to develop them.
> :-)
> > > >
> > > > Até mais!
> > > >
> > > > Leonardo
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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