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CONLANG December 2014, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Unusual perspective on conlangs; seeking friends

From:

"Krista D. Casada" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 9 Dec 2014 19:41:11 +0000

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Julian, your comments and Adam's reminded me of Stephanie Tolan's novel Welcome to the Ark, which I read some time ago, and in which a young character's conlanging provides an interesting plot point. What I had forgotten, though, is that dreaming plays a major role in the story, and another character is described as "apparently autistic." Though it's listed as a young adult novel, you might find it relevant reading. I might have to go read the sequel myself!

Krista C.
________________________________________
From: Constructed Languages List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Adam Walker [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Unusual perspective on conlangs; seeking friends

Please don't feel like people on this list are "more important" than you.
Let me assure you.  They are not.  Despite the occasional windbag among us,
most of us are down-to-earth, rather run-of-the-mill weirdos.  I have a
couple or three degrees, but I work in a warehouse lifting boxes and
shipping stuff to the far corners of the USA.  I have a fair few conlang
that I work on here and there.

Your vampire "research" sounds very interesting.  I'd like to see more
details and would be thrilled if you shared some bits about the language.
We have far too little actual conlang stuff on-list these days, and FAR to
much meta.  It hasn't always been like this, and it cycles from time to
time.  I tend to participate a lot more when the lang content is higher and
a lot less when the meta stuff dominates.

My most developed language is Carrajina, an alternate history Romance
language spoken in North Africa.  Most of my other languages are spoken by
aliens in my novels.  Some of those are quite pedestrian; some are quite
weird.

Anyway, that's my long-winded way of saying HI!!

Adam

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Julian Garberson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My name is Julian, and although you don’t know me yet, I would like to say
> that I am sorry for what happened to Mr. Pearson with that job that it had
> appeared he might get for that film, as he explained in the old discussions
> that began with "Challenge to puzzle-lovers."
>
> y thinking about conlangs does not take the form of being gifted with
> systematically writing out charts and parts of speech and the like. I wish
> it did, because then it would be so much easier to relate to other
> conlangers. Rather, it often takes the form of dreams in which I have
> erudite conversations with a multilingual representative of a given
> fictional culture — an individual from that culture who is able to speak or
> learn English — and in which I then spend time with such individuals.
>
>  I prefer to explore the imaginary reality of vampires (and other
> fictional beings) from the sophontology angle, the sapiology angle —
> supposing that there existed a scientific discipline something like
> anthropology to be applied to non-humans. When I was at Wheaton College in
> Massachusetts — from which I received my Bachelor of Arts in 2009 -- I had
> an extremely complex dream in which I was adopted by an extended family of
> vampires. I am not an anthropologist, but in that dream, I was apparently
> picked by vampire "talent scouts" to write some kind of magnum opus about
> the vampires' sophisticated civilization. In that one night’s worth of
> dreaming, it felt as though I had spent as many as five years in very deep
> cultural immersion learning their lifeways -- or, one might say, their
> "ways of undeath." I dreamed that I saw numerous breathtaking parts of
> their underground cities. I dreamed that I held in-depth interviews with
> vampire archeologists and other scientists. I also dreamed that I made
> detailed studies of their schools, libraries, courts, and other
> institutions. I even proposed marriage to one of their law enforcement
> personnel, and beyond this, there was much more. One might say that it was
> a "compressed data" dream unlike anything since, because even  I still
> continue to recover new details about it.
>
> Although I earnestly hoped I could be part of the conlang listserv, I find
> it to be  just too dense with things I don’t have the skills to understand.
> I seem to be experiencing “information overload,” especially because I have
> an autism-spectrum disorder. I have no problem talking about this disorder,
> if anyone wants to hear more about it. I majored in early Asian history and
> I received honors in Spanish, but know very little about linguistics and
> seem to have little aptitude in the field. Frankly, I have the feeling that
> people on this list are much much more important than I am and have far
> more advanced qualifications, so hesitate to take up anyone's valuable
> time. My interests may be too different, but if there is someone with
> similar interests who would like to write to me privately, I would be happy
> to do so. It may be that we could find many interesting things to talk
> about. I just don't want to be an annoyance to anyone.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Julian Garberson
> [log in to unmask]
>

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