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AUXLANG  December 2014, Week 4

AUXLANG December 2014, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in the International Phonetic Alphabet published by Evertype

From:

Matthew Barnett <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:46:58 +0000

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On 2014-12-23 17:01, Paul Bartlett wrote:
> On 2014-12-19 6:45 AM, Risto Kupsala wrote:
>> Logan Streondj wrote 2014-12-18 12:55:
>>> It is clear to me why we stick to the old spelling,
>>> since it is so hard to agree on someone elses pronunciation.
>>
>> The real reason is that nobody is in charge of the English spelling.
>> That's why new spellings pop up from social media, etc.
>>
>> Minor improvements would be possible without touching dialect
>> differences between the major dialects (RP and US).
>>
>> [trim]
>>
>> A teen and an adult can learn the principles of phonetic spelling in a
>> day and get used to it in a few weeks. A simple converter software could
>> transcribe the entire content of the internet to the new spelling "in no
>> taym".
>
> Yes, intelligent adolescents and adults who are already literate native
> anglophones could learn the proposals quickly, although I myself am not
> sure that they could "get used to it in a few weeks," especially for
> mature adults who have spent, say, fifty or sixty years with the old
> spelling. (For example, I learned to read early and easily, so I do not
> sound out words as I read but more or less recognize them as wholes.
> With the proposals made, I would have to go back to sounding out words
> for a long time.) Also, I think that given English spelling as it is, it
> might take more than "simple converter software," although I will leave
> that up to the computer specialists to deal with.
>
There are homographs like "bow" (/baU/ or /b@U/) and "row" (/raU/ or
/r@U/), or even "lead" (/li:d/ or /led/) and "read" (/ri:d/ or /red/).

> Finally, what about all the old documents that would not be converted?
> Yes, English spelling has changed somewhat over the centuries (and some
> words have shifted meanings), but it has been stable enough that
> literate native speakers can still read documents four hundred years old
> with some accuracy. A new orthography could impede that practice except
> for specialists. Indeed, I have read -- I will stand corrected if I am
> wrong -- that a contributing factor in Ataturk's imposition of the Latin
> alphabet on Turkey was a deliberate attempt to cause a break with the
> country's past in his desire to secularize the society. Of course,
> spelling reform proposals for English have historically not been
> attempts to cause major social changes, but they could cause something
> of a break with the past.
>

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