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CONLANG  January 2015, Week 3

CONLANG January 2015, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Yardish, An Audio-only language

From:

Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:34:17 -0500

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They use speaking stones discs.

On 1/17/15, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'd forgotten about clay and stone. They do have a record-keeping
> system, it's just in audio form.
>
> On 1/17/15, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> On 17/01/2015 16:39, Dustinger Batailleur wrote:
>>> I'd dispute the claim of developed civilisation
>>> necessarily needing writing. There's clearly a
>>> correlation due to the usefulness of writing in recording
>>> bureaucratic information etc, but it's not a prerequisite
>>> for civilisation I'd say.
>>
>> Nor actually did I.  I wrote only: "If the Yemorans have not
>> developed writing it simply means that their culture has not
>> developed sufficiently to need speech to be recorded."
>>
>>> Take a look at the Inca for example: they had no formal
>>> writing system but recorded numerical information on
>>> strings via Quipu.
>>
>> You seem to imply that the quipu recorded only numeric
>> information.  If this is correct, then the quipu is not a
>> developed writing system and it merely shows that the Inca
>> culture did not, as the Maya to the north, require anything
>> more to be recorded, i.e. their culture had not developed
>> sufficiently to require anything more (histories, stories,
>> songs etc) to be recorded.
>>
>> BUT exactly what the quipu recorded is still, as far as I
>> know, controversial.  When I last looked, some scholars
>> considered that the quipu recorded a lot more than just
>> numerical data, i.e. it was a form of _writing_.
>>
>> I did write also "humans have not always written on paper."I
>> see no reason per_se  a bunch of colored chords (apparently
>> some quipus contained a hundred or more chords) knotted at
>> various places along their length could not a form of writing.
>>
>> --
>> Ray
>> ======================================================
>> http://www.carolandray.plus.com
>> ======================================================
>> Logica enim est omnium artium aptissimum instrumentum,
>> sine qua nulla scientia perfecte sciri potest.
>> (For logic is of all the arts the most fitting tool,
>> without which no science can be properly known.)
>> [William of Ockham]
>>
>
>
> --
> Pen Name:
> Mellissa Green
> Twitter
> @abluegreenunivs
>
>
> website
>
> www.abluegreenuniverse.com
>


-- 
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