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CONLANG April 2015, Week 5

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Re: One, Oneself and A

From:

Leonardo Castro <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:20:41 -0300

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2015-04-27 17:11 GMT-03:00 And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>:

> > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 15:47:21 -0300
> > > > > From: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > > I've developed conlang Muai a little more, and now it's official:
> > > > definite
> > > > > and indefinite articles are pronouns! To express "the dog", you
> must
> > > say
> > > > > "it dog", that is, "the" and "it" are the same word.
> > > >
> > > > > Is there an ANADEW for that?
>
> IMO Northern English English is almost a perfect example, tho nowadays they
> are no closer than closely related allomorphs. (That is, I think they're
> morphologically (almost) the same, but not syntactically.)
>
> I thought I'd written on-list about this a couple of months ago, but it
> turns out it was a couple of years ago, again in a thread you were
> participating in: <
>
> https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1303A&L=CONLANG&P=R899&I=-3&d=No+Match;Match;Matches
> >.
>

So it's from that thread that I got the example "it dog". Thank you for
remembering me!

By the way, I've recently watched some English-language movies in which
people say things like

"I have to tell you something. Yesterday, I've met *this* guy. He was blond
and tall, bla bla bla..."

It sounds to me that they really mean "I've met *a* guy". Come to think of
it, "this guy" is maybe really more precise, since he's not indefinite to
the person who's talking about him...

Até mais!

Leonardo


> > 2015-04-27 2:02 GMT+03:00 MorphemeAddict <[log in to unmask]>:
> >
> > > But "them dogs" means 'those dogs', not 'the dogs'.
>
> On 27 Apr 2015 09:10, "Ingus Macats" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Does it?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I'm pretty sure that I've heard it used as "the dogs", I think, at
> > least by Russell Brand.
>
> You've misunderstood him. (The meanings aren't very far apart, so it's a
> natural misunderstanding.)
>
> --And.
>

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