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CONLANG July 2015, Week 5

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Re: How much Conlang is too much for a script?

From:

Nina-Kristine Johnson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:00:22 -0400

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Daya! (Heya!)

I should look into *Sarah's Key*. Is it available on Hulu Plus? Or I can
follow the link on YouTube (internet in this hotel is rubbish...I get
disconnected a lot while trying to write my script in Google Docs).

I spoke with my mum and stepdad (they totally support this project), last
night about it and they basically thought it would be a good idea to forget
about *English versus Ehen**ív language scene* to write it all in *Ehen**ív
and* sell it to a film company as a *foreign film*. That people go crazy
for foreign films. *chufasu * (*LOL* in Ehen*ív*)

I planned to, anyway for the Facebook group members and Tumblr followers.
How to do *that*, though....that is another topic for another day.

But, yeah, *kitit*! (thanks!). *tisala javés * (smiley face)

I feel better about the dialogue I am writing. I was just concerned I would
alienate the average viewer. Showing off my language to that sort of
audience might be misinterpreted as me being pretentious. That is not how I
want to be viewed. I just want to tell a story. It just so happens
character development has given me a good excuse to use the language.

If its all right: I would like to add links to my sources to see what my
work is all about. Why I have followers for my silly, little conlang
(Tumblr blog and Facebook group page)

http://gerudoshikyapril.tumblr.com/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/178016522278733/863845940362451/?notif_t=like

I'll save the *Pirate Dialect* link for another topic (I don't say much
around here, honestly).

Tisala-e! (Cheers!),
Kristine













On 30 July 2015 at 09:39, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I just watched _Sarah's Key_ last week,.  Great movie.  In my experience,
> European movies are much less skittish about having scenes/dialogue in some
> language other than the primary one of the audience (ditto Chinese and
> Bollywood) than linguaphobic American movies.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:06 AM, kechpaja <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:49:14 -0700
> > Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Nina-Kristine Johnson
> > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where do you draw the line between *too much foreign language/ugh, I
> > have
> > > > to read way too many subtitles!* and *this scene really needs a
> > > > conversation in this language*?
> > > >
> > > > The rest of the film is in English (95% or so). My protagonist will
> be
> > > > speaking with outsiders for the remainder of the film. I stopped
> > writing,
> > > > because I felt maybe the conversation should be in English, so as to
> > > > avoid alienating my potential viewers. But, issue is: she's talking
> to
> > the
> > > > leader of her tribe. Seems natural she's speak Ehenív, right? She
> spoke
> > > > with her aunt in the language a couple scenes back.
> > > >
> > > > I tried asking my Facebook page group members, but they came up with
> > the
> > > > same thing I did (which wasn't very helpful). I did plan on (if I
> > actually
> > > > made the film) making a second cut with all Ehenív and maybe
> subtitles.
> > > > But, this would be for the fans of the language, only.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that if you've committed to having conversations
> > > between native-speaker characters in your conlang, it wouldn't make
> > > sense to have this particular scene in English just because it's a
> > > long one. It would feel very artificial unless you have a good story
> > > reason for them to be speaking in English (for example, if there's an
> > > outsider there who needs to be kept in the loop).
> > >
> > > At this point if the audience has accepted subtitles for some scenes I
> > > don't think they'll be terribly put out at another one. You've already
> > > accepted that you're not catering to people who just plain hate
> > > reading subtitles.
> >
> > To add to this: the movie "Sarah's Key" (
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1668200/) contained a huge amount of
> > subtitled French dialog (and for most Americans, French is nearly as
> > incomprehensible as an unknown conlang), so you wouldn't necessarily be
> > breaking new ground by having entire scenes in another language.
> >
> >
> > --
> > kechpaja <[log in to unmask]>
> >
>

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