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CONLANG  July 2015, Week 5

CONLANG July 2015, Week 5

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Re: No Phonology!

From:

Mechthild Czapp <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:20:37 +0100

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> Am 29.07.2015 um 11:14 schrieb And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>:
> 
> On 28 Jul 2015 23:52, "Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know why I bother; there's neither interest nor empathy here.
>> 
>> I think you're taking Ray's jibes a little too seriously.
>> 
>> Even if I can't really empathize with the "getting tired of phonology"
>> motive for creating it, I think the idea of a phonology-less (non-sign)
>> language is quite interesting, and I'm sure others do as well.
> 
> I can understand a conlanger not being interested in phonology and not
> getting round to inventing it, which is what I'd understood Jeff's position
> to be, but I think a complete language without a phonology is a
> definitional impossibility: a language is by definition a phonology, a
> syntax and a mapping between them.
> 
> So while a incomplete conlang with a completely unspecified phonology is
> perfectly reasonable, a claim of a phonologyless language is, I think, not.
> I'd be interesting in hearing from anyone that disagrees.
> 
> BTW I'm sure Ray intended no jibe, intending merely to express his own
> surprise that anyone could not find delight in phonology.
> 
> --And.

Any language that is not spoken does not need a phonology. If you for example want to make a language used to pass secret notes in class (or between other secret groups like between Christians in Ancient Rome), and that is its purpose, it can be perfectly complete without a spoken form. Not all conlangs are general purpose conlangs.

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