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CONLANG  August 2015, Week 1

CONLANG August 2015, Week 1

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Re: Glottal stop in German

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And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:56:34 +0100

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Jason Cullen, On 05/08/2015 19:47:
> Why do you analyze 'reschmooze' as a 'word within a word'? I would analyze
> it as a prefix affixed to a word, making a new word. Not a word within a
> word. Then again, I think most linguists who work in morphology have
> quietly abandoned the word 'word', because different languages have
> different phonological, morphological, and syntactic requirements for
> 'words'.

There are loads of phonological rules sensitive to these word-like phonological syntagms that I notated by delimiting them with brackets: [re[shmooze]]. (I actually call these syntagms 'rhemes', and call a syntagm that contains no rheme-boundaries a 'pheme'; as I mentioned, I was calling them 'words' only in order not to have to introduce new technical vocab.)

> I would say 'schmooze' and 'reschmooze' are both full-fledged 'words'
> in any definition of 'word'...

Yes.

> Also, if there were really such a restriction against non-word initial
> forms, then wouldn't a non-word initial usage of ʃC be difficult to
> pronounce? For example, an onset sequence of C[+stop]+N is restricted in
> English, but allowed in Russian. Книга [ˈkni:gə], "book," is notoriously
> hard for beginning students of Russian. And it's hard only because English
> has a 'restriction' for such consonant sequences. But Hungarian for
> 'Budapest' [budapɛʃt] is not difficult to pronounce at all for native
> speakers of English.

The [ʃt] isn't difficult, but unrelatedly the unreduced [a] is... But anyway, note that /bUd@peSt/ would be not at all exceptional as a _-d_-inflected form of a stem /bUd@peS/ (as if it were _budapeshed_). I think _Budapest_, when pronounced with [ʃ], borrows the form of [[bUd@peS]d] (i.e. a form derived from a _-d_-inflected stem). Contrast how much worse /bUd@peSp/, /bUd@peSk/ would be.

> So is it really 'restricted', as a stop+nasal consonant sequence in
> English is, or is it just randomly absent in most English lexemes?

An adequate theory of phonotactic well-formedness must offer analyses besides these two extremes. As I'm tired, and my own theory is unripe, I won't say more here now.

--And.

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