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CONLANG  September 2015, Week 1

CONLANG September 2015, Week 1

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Re: Gendered and gender-neutral pronouns in conlangs (was: OT: non-standard pronouns mandated at University of Tennessee, Knoxville)

From:

"Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 7 Sep 2015 16:52:06 -0400

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(My point with that last bit being, that if I had made an I-E language, it
would naturally still have gender of some form. But so far I have no such
language in my ... linguography?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> None of the langs I've gotten anywhere with has any gender distinction -
> in pronouns or anything else. This is most likely due to the fact that they
> are intended to be alien and the earliest ones were heavily influenced by
> auxlangs.
>
>  Okaikiar has different noun declensions, but they aren't connected to
> gender. Nor is there any agreement involved beyond case; adjectives are
> declined according to their own declensions irrespective of that of the
> noun they're modifying.
>
> At one point I did start on a version of the primary Dankaran language
> that was intended to be a completely isolated descendent of PIE. But then
> Disney had Dr. Marc Okrand make that exact thing for their Atlantis movie
> and I gave up the idea. (And we need not talk about the way they treated
> linguistic ancestry as a magic elixir that allowed its speakers to
> understand all Indo-European languages through modern times.  That wasn't
> Dr. Okrand's fault...)
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hallo conlangers!
>>
>> On 07.09.2015 12:27, yuri wrote:
>>
>> On 1 September 2015 at 04:18, And Rosta wrote:
>>>
>>>> Two conlangy questions:
>>>>
>>> Thanks And for bringing this back on topic :-)
>>>
>>> In KlaXa, all nouns and pronouns are gender-neutral by default.
>>> You can add the suffix -wen for female or -tan for male to any word
>>> where it would make sense.
>>> e.g. Xeŋāt = parent (from Xeŋaŋ - to beget) therefore Xeŋātwen =
>>> mother and Xeŋāttan = father.
>>> and
>>> e.g. dhuk = she or he; dhukwen = she; dhuktan = he.
>>>
>>> The suffixes I chose for gender distinction were arbitrarily stolen
>>> from Māori (Wahine and Tane).
>>>
>>
>> Old Albic has gender-neutral and gendered forms of pronouns and animate
>> nouns.  The gender-neutral form ends in -a, the male form in -o and the
>> female form in -e.  Thus, you have the 3rd person animate pronouns _sa_
>> 'he/she (neutral)', _so_ 'he' and _se_ 'she'.  Or nouns: _cvasta_ 'human
>> being (of any sex)', _cvasto_ 'human male', _cvaste_ 'human female'.  The
>> -o and -e forms evolved from earlier suffixes *-wa and *-ja suffixed to the
>> -a form.
>>
>> --
>> ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
>> http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html
>> "Bêsel asa Éam, a Éam atha cvanthal a cvanth atha Éamal." - SiM 1:1
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
>



-- 
Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>

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