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CONLANG September 2015, Week 2

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Re: Ambiguous orthographies

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Js Bangs <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:03:32 -0500

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> So does Yivrian have a consonantal root system like the Semitic languages??
>
>
No, it's a pretty typical agglutivative language, mostly suffixes with a
few infixes to keep things interesting.



> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Js Bangs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > That goes for the orthographies as well, which have to date been
> > > purely phonetic, one-to-one mappings between phonemes (or groups
> > > thereof) and symbols. But in reality, even the most phonetic of
> > > scripts used for natlangs have certain quirks. So I'm wondering: for
> > > those of you who have con-scripts to go with your con-langs, have you
> > > introduced any irregularities?  Perhaps based the script on an earlier
> > > form of the language and had it not keep up?
> > >
> >
> > The Yivrian orthography is an abjad, and it has most of the quirks that
> > you'd expect from an abjad: it is frequently ambiguous with respect to
> > vowels, although it is pretty consistent with regards to consonants.
> There
> > are no digraphs, but there are a number of ligatures which must be used
> to
> > indicate common words and affixes, and word-final vowels have dedicated
> > letters which differ from the way those vowels are indicated medially.
> > Finally, in one case, there is a morphological distinction: word-final -i
> > is written with one letter when it represents the plural, and a different
> > letter when it's part of a stem.
> >
> > I won't try to describe the system here in detail, except to note the
> > obvious things. The short vowels [a ɛ ɪ] are not indicated medially,
> while
> > the long vowels [e: i:] are indicated by the letter which otherwise
> > indicates consonantal Y, the long vowels [o: u:] are indicated by the
> > letter which otherwise indicates consonantal W.
> >
> > So if you have a series of letters TPWN, it could be:
> >
> > tapon
> > tepon
> > tipon
> > tapun
> > tepun
> > tipun
> >
> > All of this should be pretty familiar with anyone who's studied Hebrew or
> > Arabic. There are diacritical marks that can be used to disambiguate
> these,
> > but in practice I very rarely use them. The amount of practical ambiguity
> > in any case is very small.
> >
> > --
> > JS Bangs
> > [log in to unmask]
> > http://jsbangs.wordpress.com
> >
> > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle" -Ian Maclaren
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
>



-- 
JS Bangs
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"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle" -Ian Maclaren

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