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CONLANG  October 2015, Week 3

CONLANG October 2015, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Expulsion of loglangs from CONLANG-L

From:

Galen Buttitta <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:46:20 -0400

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I fear y'all may have misinterpreted my message. "Define 'real language'" was meant as a subtle way of disagreeing with the idea that certain languages should be excluded from CONLANG-L, which is how I interpreted the post I replied to.

On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:59, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> Define "real language".
> 
> No, please.  Don't.  That way lies only madness and discord.
> 
> We should be able to discuss loglangs, non-log engelangs, auxlangs,
> artlangs,... all of those are on-topic for this list.  "Realness" doesn't
> enter into it.
> 
> Ignoring the fact that Sid's request was rudely phrased and poorly
> supported, we were just last week talking about how the original Great
> Sundering would not be necessary today. So what, then we're going to turn
> around and have another one?  Over a burst of discussion that has only
> lasted a couple weeks?
> 
> It's not like the traffic levels are overwhelming. Make a filter to ignore
> the subject lines you don't want to read about anymore if hitting the
> delete key 10 extra times is too much.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Galen Buttitta <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Define "real language".
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:28 AM, David McCann <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 04:15:21 +0530
>>> Sid <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The loglang discussions are annoying. It's a bunch of opinions and
>>>> arguments about linguistic superiority and nitpicks.
>>> 
>>> Hear, hear!
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:31:18 -0700
>>> William Wright <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> why don't we just kick everyone off who annoys us, you and I? I've
>>>> always hated romalngs; can we expel them too?
>>>> Sorry, that was rude, not to mention probably ill-executed.
>>> 
>>> Well, yes, it was.
>>> 
>>> But the real point is not that the loglang discussions have been boring
>>> and irritating, but that they are not relevant to any conglanger who
>>> doesn't work on them. A possibly relevant point is that loglangs do not
>>> exist in the wild (before you say that no conlangs do, consider things
>>> like Chinook jargon) and so are not really languages.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:10:59 +0100
>>> R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I see a perfectly good working solution.  It's called being
>>>> tolerant of other people's interests and also, as I do (and
>>>> others it seems), using the DELETE button for posts that
>>>> don't interest us personally.
>>> 
>>> Then why, at the time of the Great Sundering, were those then on the
>>> list not similarly tolerant?
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'm not calling for anyone or anything to be expelled. I
>>> can and do delete. But when just a couple of people have some
>>> overriding interest that clearly not shared by others, might they not
>>> consider a private discussion? And when some-one like Sid protests,
>>> might others be a little less smug in parading their toleration?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>

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