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CONLANG  October 2015, Week 3

CONLANG October 2015, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Principles for IALs

From:

J S Jones <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:18:27 -0400

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Maybe I should check to see how all my auxlangs fit your criteria. But what about alien auxlangs?

Jeff

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:32:10 +0200, Temporary Conlanger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Greeting to everyone!
>
>I think the below principles are obvious, necessary for a conlang to
>be adopted as IAL, nevertheless there are many conlangs (all to some
>degree) violating them. From conlangs I've read about, "Glosa" and
>"Lingua Franca Nova" seem closest, hence best. Would "Glosa" fit the
>below, if ancient latin/greek vocab would be replaced with the below
>mentioned mostly modern english (written, not pronunciation)
>vocabulary already in use? Basically these priciples imply a
>trivial-to-learn grammar onto established international/english vocab,
>to minimize learning effort and overall switching cost.
>
>Principles for International Auxillary Languages:
>============================
>
>international auxillary language => learnable & adaptable => familiar
>& orthogonal
>
>(orthogonal: grammar does not force you to express something when not
>intended/needed/known e.g. gender number emphasis time ...; instead
>express by lexical means i.e. more words which is always optional)
>
>* no inflections (because they cause stem/suffix-change ie fusion and
>irregularity which slow learning and make literal adoption of
>loanwords problematic)
>
>* no sound/gender/number/... agreement (because they slow learning and
>are redundant since they cannot remove ambiguity of association in
>general anyway)
>
>* no gender/number (e.g. sheep, food, fish; e.g. "he-or-she", "he-or-she-or-it")
>
>* no tenses (express lexically instead)
>
>* strict meaningful word order (since words have to be in order anyway
>and will contribute to meaning anyway, but if not used for essential
>meaning then it will be abused to express mostly redundant
>emphasis/subtleties causing more learning effort and misunderstanding;
>if meaning of verb contains the argument order then cases/preps can be
>avoided e.g. "I give you flowers" hence concise)
>
>* phonetic (i.e. pronunciation of every letter is context independent)
>
>* no tones
>
>* vocabulary Globalized/Colonial/English/Latin/Greek (already in use
>hence everyone needs to learn it anyway)
>
>* no lexical distinction btw verb/noun/adjective (faster learning,
>e.g. I water the flowers. I use water power. I drink some water.)
>
>
>Flaws of existing languages:
>=================
>
>By "flaws" in this context I just mean: "these are the difficulties
>for adult learners of the language that could be avoided in a conlang
>or by evolving the language".
>
>flaws of English:
>--------------------
>* spelling/pronunciation
>* redundant/large vocabulary (subtelties when needed can be expressed
>with a few more common words rather than one rare word, do you like
>looking up word defs just because the author wanted to seem educated,
>could be solved if native educators would stop encouraging the use of
>rare/obscure words and they would be marked archaic/obsolete in
>dictionaries)
>* irregularities
>* too many tenses
>* inflections (but at least fewer than in the rest of Europe)
>
>flaws of Mandarin:
>-----------------------
>* characters
>* tones
>* its vocabulary only familiar to chinese speakers not
>worldwide/science/med/tech
>
>flaws of other European languages: inflections, ...
>flaws of other non-European languages: vocabulary not established as
>international already, ...
>
>Bye!

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