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CONLANG  February 2016, Week 1

CONLANG February 2016, Week 1

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Re: Rokhos Sound Changes

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Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:25:33 -0500

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 18:26:33 -0800, Evan Palley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Pre-Rokhos:

Good, that's come through!  

I realise in the first place that I also should've asked you for the phonology of Pan-Yael, not only inventory but phonotactics etc. also, since what's naturalistic is very sensitive to where you're starting from.  For instance:

>g -> k / #_
>d -> t / #_
>b -> p / #_
>ɟ -> c / #_

This is a nice change overall, but it's much stranger if there's some voiced stop other than /g d b J\/ in Pan-Yael which is unaffected.  I would assume not, but I can't tell from this.  

>kʰ -> kx / #_ || _V(C)V[+stress]
>tʰ -> ts / #_ || _V(C)V[+stress]

So in initial syllables, or immediately pretonic open syllables.  What do these have in common?  If it were the stressed syllable that were targeted I would interpret it as some kind of fortition, but that doesn't seem so likely here.

>pʰ -> f / V_V
>     -> p / #_

Is that meant to be parallel to the above change, with subsequent different decay of the transitional *[pf] in different places (or maybe failure to produce it)?  That's what I'd expect; but the environments don't exactly line up.  And was there a [c_h] in Pan-Yael too?

>ɲ -> ŋ / #_
>   -> n/ #_

One of these environments is a typo, I presume.  Which also makes it a bit hard to interpret the following:

>ŋ -> ɲ / V_V

A bit strange to see [J] being created and destroyed in close succession like this.  [N] to [J] makes sense as conditioned palatalisation, but unconditioned it makes me think of interference from a language with [J] but without [N].  Or maybe with /J/ realised as [N] allophonically, parallelly to... whichever pattern you're setting up above.

>m̥ -> ∅ / _# || _C[-voice]
>    -> m / elsewhere
>n̥  -> ∅ / _# || _C[-voice]
>    -> n / elsewhere

No other voiceless nasals exist?  Have they been eliminated already by parallel changes to the voiceless nasals above, or were they never there? (and why not?)

Is there an [h] in PY?  One way for the voiceless nasals to disappear would be by passing to [h] which is immediately interpreted as /0/, but that's blocked if there is an [h].  (I suppose this isn't the only way.)

>iː -> e / _(C)V[+high]
>   -> i / elsewhere
>uː -> o / _(C)V[+high]
>   -> u / elsewhere

Height dissimilation!  Certainly not the norm, but not unheard of.

And other long vowels remain?

>a  -> ə / [-stress]
>    -> a / _(C)V[+stress]

Why do you write the second rule, [a] becomes [a]?  Is this another typo?  Was the source perhaps long [a:]?

>eːo -> ejo
>eo  -> ew
>iːe  -> ije
>eaː -> ejaː
>oaː -> owaː

Are these the only sequences subject to glide epenthesis or crasis (that might be surprising), or have the other ones just not arisen in your wordlist vel sim.?

>I'll leave it to just the first era of changes and update tomorrow for
>more. Sorry about the technical difficulties, but maybe I should reconsider
>my major in Computer Science if I'm having trouble with a simple listserv...

Naw, no more than when I have a career crisis when I go out with a group of other mathematicians and we can't split the bill :-p

Alex

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