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CONLANG  February 2016, Week 1

CONLANG February 2016, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Conscripting: my questions about Glagolitic

From:

Matthew George <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:49:35 -0500

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On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:47 AM, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> The origin of the Glagolitic script is obscure.  It is only
> one tradition that ascribes its invention to the two
> brothers; another tradition ascribes it to St Jerome.  I
> think it far more likely that Methodius and Cyril simply
> adapted an already existing writing system they found used
> in the area they were evangelizing.


The Wikipedia page addresses the issue of origin.  Like Germanic runes, the
scholarly consensus is that no writing system existed and only
quasi-pictorial marks used for fortune-telling were present in the
societies before their exposure to writing.  The St. Jerome hypothesis
seems to have been very thoroughly debunked.


> Er, sort of because printing had not been invented and every
> book had to be copied by hand - so I do not think there
> would have been much opportunity for most of the Slav
> peoples in 9th century Balkans to use it in everyday life!
>

The Greeks used writing in all sorts of contexts other than codices.


> I hardly call Glagolitic overly-complicated - it's a
> (phonemic) alphabet, when all's said and done.  OK the
> letters take a bit writing, but that's all.
>

It could certainly be worse, I'll grant that.  But there's more to scripts
than symbol-phoneme relationships.


> The invention of the Cyrillic alphabet is, of course,
> ascribed to St Cyril himself.


Well, his students, actually.  It's thought Cyril had no direct connection
to the system named for him.  Irony.


> - assuming certain ancient legends to be fact, and not
> actually looking at historic evidence;
> - assuming availability of reading material and
> opportunities of learning in 9th century were not dissimilar
> from our contemporary world.
>

You're wrong on both counts.

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