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AUXLANG  April 2016, Week 4

AUXLANG April 2016, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Phonemes in Worldlang

From:

Paul Bartlett <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:46:43 -0400

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On 2016-04-26, Victor Chan wrote:

> After reading some articles on interlinguistics and creole languages, I conclude that the proposed phonemes from the article, Designing an international auxiliary language (Jorg Rhiemeier), can be used as a basis for worldlang. The article mention some of the proposed phonemes are difficult to distinguished for some speakers but the issue can be resolved by restricting the phonemes to specific phones.

> [rest elided for brevity]

Thank you for this post. I may have read Jörg Rhiemeier's article 
"Designing an international auxiliary language" in the past, but I just 
now reread it in full. Interesting. In many ways, it reminds me of 
Richard [Rick] K. Harrison's article "Proposed Guidelines for the Design 
of an Optimal International Auxiliary Language" (last edition, so far as 
I know, 2001), which may no longer be available online except in 
archives. (I have a copy, but there is always the matter of copyright or 
other author's rights.) There is also Rick Morneau's "Lexical Semantics" 
(2002 and possibly later).

However, my issue, which I addressed in my essay "Thoughts on IAL 
Success" (recently updated at 
http://www.panix.com/~bartlett/thoughts.html ), is that theoretical 
optimality is BY NO MEANS WHATEVER a guarantor of success for a proposed 
(constructed) international auxiliary language. In fact, theoretical 
phonemic / phonosyntactic / morphological / vocabulary characteristics 
may actually be entirely *secondary* as to why this or that conIAL does 
or does not have relative success. Theoretical "optimality," although 
not be passed entirely out of consideration, is secondary.

Look at English, the most quasi-globally widespread international 
auxiliary language in the history or the planet (just not a constructed 
language). Even as an educated native speaker of English, I heartily and 
fully acknowledge that English is most definitely "sub-optimal" by the 
criteria of such writers as Rhiemeier, Harrison, and Morneau. No 
question. Even as a native speaker, I totally acknowledge (from having 
tried to help other adults to learn it) that English is difficult for 
adult learners.

Nevertheless, "optimality" is not at all there is to the matter. Again, 
I will let my "Thoughts" essay speak for itself, as the factor of "Good 
Enough" may supervene over other factors.

(I have also in the past referred to E. Sylvia Pankhurst's short book, 
recently reprinted, "Delphos, The Future of International Language." Her 
argument is for a language which nearly comes out to be Peano's original 
Interlingua, later known as Latino sine Flexione. The point is that she 
does not just wave her hands, so to speak. She *argues* for her 
position, which is more than some auxlangers do. The book may be 
available online in some archives, as well as a physical reprint from 
http://www.ForgottenBooks.com .)

Finally, there is also the old question of who will try to learn a 
(con)IAL. Just adults? It is a truism that young children in an 
immersion environment can (approximately) learn any language equally 
well. If there is enough will and teaching opportunity, just about any 
language will do as an international auxiliary language if it is taught 
to young children and has enough vocabulary and syntax to deal with 
modern international life.

-- 
Paul Bartlett

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