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CONLANG May 2016, Week 2

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Re: "Senbonzakura" in Jarda, part 1

From:

"Jalen C." <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 12 May 2016 22:05:16 -0700

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Hello,

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that 磊々落々 is an idiom from the Chinese Book
of Jin <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Jin>. It is identical to 磊磊落落
(々 just means the previous kanji should be repeated).
The meaning, as I can tell from my very limited Japanese, is along the
lines of "The heart is a large thing. Do not be bothered by trivial/small
things."

Sources:
http://sanabo.com/words/archives/1999/08/post_293.html
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/idiom/%E7%A3%8A%E7%A3%8A%E8%90%BD%E8%90%BD/m0u/
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%80%85

-Jalen


On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm making progress on my translation of "Senbonzakura" by Kurousa-P, as
> sung by Hatsune Miku.
>
> https://www.prismnet.com/~hmiller/lang/Jarda/sulkimzan.html
> https://www.prismnet.com/~hmiller/mp3/test.mp3
>
> There's a number of things that make this a challenging text, besides just
> being in Japanese to begin with. One is the syntax: lots of nouns with few
> verbs to make sense of the meaning. Another is the tempo: at 154 bpm with
> occasional bursts of 16th notes (i.e. a syllable lasting around 1/10 of a
> second), it can be tricky to find Jarda words that fit the rhythm. And of
> course there's the subject matter, which requires new words and expressions
> all around. Then there's the usual issues around getting Vocaloid software
> to sing in Jarda.
>
> 大胆不敵にハイカラ革命
> daitan-futeki ni HAIKARA kakumei
> Nŭwił ķa kriṛ jêź dimê mjŏngwagisa nômvlêļa.
> Fearless is the brave new era of cultural replacement with western fashion.
>
> I found a page that describes the meaning of "haikara":
> http://neojaponisme.com/2009/01/29/haikara/
>
> Based on this, and constrained by the rhythm of the song, I came up with
> "mjŏngwagis nômvlêļa" (cultural replacement with western fashion) as a way
> to translate "haikara kakumei".
>
> 磊々落々(らいらいらくらく)反戦国家
> Rên-rên, ṛemê-ṛemê, kṛin nŏ kjêm kṛôł.
> rairai-rakuraku hansen kokka
> Authentic, truthful, a nation that wishes for peace.
>
> I didn't find "磊々" or "落々" in a dictionary, but there's 磊落 "rairaku"
> meaning "frankness, openheartedness". This sort of reduplication isn't
> usually something that I do in Jarda, but why not?
>
> I tried to find a way to express "anti-war nation" (hansen kokka) more
> directly, but the best I can come up with that fits is "kṛin nŏ wim źup" (a
> nation that avoids war), which I don't think conveys the intended meaning.
>
> 日の丸印の二輪車転がし
> hinomaru-jirushi no nirinsha korogashi
> Raśê sṛi ka jôs ka sķêl nŏ gṛazni ğêλ ķa nama śulê.
> The bicycle rolls down the road, marked with a flag of the circle of the
> sun.
>
> 悪霊退散 ICBM
> akuryou-taisan  AI-SHII-BII-EMU
> Slilglazü düwa ślegwur karfanxlizka.
> The ocean-crossing cannon will scatter away evil spirits.
>
> I'm not sure of the connection between "evil spirits disperse" and "ICBM"
> in the original text, but I've got it in the ergative case for now ... it
> seems to make as much sense that way as any other case.
>
> 環状線を走り抜けて
> Sṛi ka namjôs flôdê ṛêmol ṛêmna.
> kanjousen o hashirinukete
> Along the circle road, scurrying from place to place.
>
> For this line I looked up "環状線" on the Japanese Wikipedia and then clicked
> on the English link, which led me to "ring road". I thought that was a nice
> way of expressing the idea, so I adapted it as "circle road" in Jarda.
>
> 東奔西走なんのその
> touhon-seisou nan no sono
> Tê ênmŭ zin zŭ zêv ķöda büz.
> It’s nothing to me, moving around always.
>
> "I don't care" can of course be translated as "gṛid va" (or "vagṛid"), but
> it didn't seem like the right expression in this case.
>
> 少年少女戦国無双
> shounen shoujo sengoku-musou
> Zŏlnê, ṛazvi, gjôņvama źupkṛinvo,
> Boys, girls, matchless in a nation at war,
>
> 浮世の随(まにま)に
> ukiyo no manima ni
> tŭva nülzêm vluğê nŏ vêλ.
> at the mercy of this temporary world.
>



-- 
Was yea ra chs hymmne.
Above text requires this font
<http://hymmnoserver.uguu.ca/static/hymmnos.ttf>
<http://hymmnoserver.uguu.ca/static/hymmnos.ttf>to be shown correctly

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