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CONLANG July 2016, Week 1

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Re: Nootka Is Weird: The Ultimate in V2 Syntax

From:

Siva Kalyan <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 7 Jul 2016 11:26:26 +1000

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Is it really so weird? Verbs often cliticise to their objects in English, too: e.g. Bóney was=a=wárrior; Your=són has=a=quéstion; etc. They’re not usually analysed as clitics, but this may be written-language bias.

The bit about movement is admittedly unexpected.

Siva

> On 7 Jul 2016, at 9:15 AM, Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> In the course of doing research on lexical suffixes for Valaklwuuxa, I
> came across a really weird thing.
> 
> Nootka has what appear to be lexical suffixes with the semantics of
> transitive verbs, instead of vague substantives, as is typical in
> Salish languages. They attach to their objects, and then still require
> a subject, or they can attach to an expletive base and act like
> regular transitive verbs that take a subject and an object.
> 
> This I intend to steal for Valaklwuuxa.
> 
> But when you look closer, it gets way weirder, in a way that I
> unfortunately don't think I can make use of in Valaklwuuxa:
> 
> If the object of the bound verb is not a single word, it turns out to
> actually behave like a clitic that attaches to the first word in the
> object phrase, whether that is a noun, adjective, determiner,
> quantifier, or relative pronoun. That whole verb-clitic-and-object
> phrase then ends up moved to the beginning of its containing clause,
> while typical ordering is VSO.
> 
> This seemed like the kind of can't-make-this-up weirdness that someone
> else might be inspired to use in a conlang.
> 
> -l.

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