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CONLANG  July 2016, Week 3

CONLANG July 2016, Week 3

Subject:

Re: I Need a Word: View of Reality Related to Level of Technology.

From:

Jeffrey Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:08:42 -0700

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"zeitsprache"  ??

(The same metaphorical shift has occurred in psychology. Maybe this is a
common occurrence in any field which is poorly understood, leading its
practitioners to grasp for metaphors?)


On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Ralph L. DeCarli <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I would think that '/jargon/' is the term for the sets of words
> themselves, but '/zeitgeist', 'evolution' or '///etymology//', and
> perhaps/'common lexis'/ would probably also be needed to get the full idea
> across. I don't know of any single word that combines those concepts.
>
> Ralph
>
> On 07/20/2016 12:52 AM, Granny Grammar wrote:
>
>> In the 17th century, when moats were just going out of style, but canals
>> were becoming a serious part of economic development across northern
>> Europe, the major work of economics expressed everything in terms of flows
>> of water.
>>
>> 150 years later Adam smith came along, and economics started with the pin
>> factory on page one, then roamed across the industrial revolution from
>> there.
>>
>> As soon as Michaelson, and Faraday, and Boltzmann had a handle on
>> electricity, economics had fields of force.  Then with the huge kludge
>> computer of the 1950's, along came input-output analysis, but that would
>> have been too much work for anybody to work out in detail, so off they
>> went
>> into calculus, with just the barest nod to non-linear functions.
>>
>>   (These, like input-output analysis, would require an awful lot of real
>> world factual work, so that direction in economics has had comparatively
>> few followers.  Calculus and all the nice smooth functions that deal with
>> things that can be shoved under the Central Limit Theorem get much more
>> play.  They have no contact with the real world, but they're close enough
>> to look plausible, and you can manipulate them without ever leaving your
>> office or inserting an actual fact.)
>>
>> Now, here's the question: what is the word, or the vocabulary, for a whole
>> field going from waterworks, to the water wheel and steam, to electricity,
>> and now digital and soon quantum computing, for its succession of sets of
>> metaphors?
>>
>> As you might all guess, I'm looking for a vicious set of invective with
>> which to say that the physicists are just as bad as the economists.
>>
>> Help, puh-leeze.
>>
>> Yer Granny Luvs Ya.
>>
>
> --
> Living well is the best revenge.
>

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