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CONLANG  July 2016, Week 3

CONLANG July 2016, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Terminology Question

From:

Jeffrey Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:35:22 -0700

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I like Alex's suggestion to simply call them "evidentials" and not worry if
possibly they belong to a super-category.
I also think Jyri makes an excellent point that a grammatical description
should be "lucid and easily readable". If the intended audience is not
solely linguists, then one should avoid technical terms unless they are
explained. I believe it's better not to define too many terms and merely
illustrate the correct usage of the words through examples.


On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Jyri Lehtinen <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> But it does sound fairly unlikely that a language would organise its words
> into internally homogeneous classes that would all be equally unrelated
> with each other and not form even loose superclasses of the type of
> "nominals", "verbals", or "particles" (i.e. only allow a single level of
> hierarchy for describing the parts of speech). For a conlang it could just
> be possible but it would need to be pretty fine-tuned and you'd also need
> to have waterproof arguments for why any supergrouping or separation of
> minor subclasses within the main parts of speech wouldn't make sense.
>
>    -Jyri
>
>
> 2016-07-19 2:28 GMT+03:00 And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > On 18 Jul 2016 23:09, "Jyri Lehtinen" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > There might be good reasons to carefully define a
> > > list of 40 separate parts of speech but to stubbornly keep using them
> all
> > > throughout the grammar may well end up in a text that you'd rather not
> > read
> > > for fun. When you are describing that many parts of speech, you''ll
> > > certainly encounter hierarchy within the classification.
> >
> > I'm not sure that's true; it certainly needn't be true for a conlang,
> and I
> > think nobody can currently be sure if it's true for natlangs, since
> (afaik)
> > no reasonably complete and adequate categorial hierarchy has been
> > established for any.
> >
> > --And.
> >
>

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