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CONLANG  September 2016, Week 4

CONLANG September 2016, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Рускы & Astronautical: My First Foray in Purely A-Posteriori Conlanging

From:

Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 23 Sep 2016 12:43:45 -0600

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On 23 September 2016 at 00:21, Christa Hansberry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Sounds fun! :-D
>
> Now, if you were me, the next step would be to make a hybrid of Рускы and
> Astronautical English, to serve as an auxlang between the two groups. But,
> as it happens, you are not me. :-Ъ

Indeed. And I don't think the characters meant to speak these
languages actually *want* an auxlang. They are very much tied to the
cultural identities of two competing ideological empires. I suspect
the Academy of Astronautical English and the Russian Language
Institute would both strongly object to any attempt to create a hybrid
auxlang.

-l.

> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Logan Kearsley <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> I find myself involved in another making-languages-for-a-novel
>> project. This one is a set approximately 200 to 300 years into the
>> future, in a rocketpunk alternate history, in a colonized solar system
>> whose linguistic landscape is dominated by English & Russian, because
>> the alternate history part is that the USA vs. USSR Space Race
>> actually continue long enough, ad with big nuclear rockets, to
>> actually set up permanent colonies.
>>
>> But, languages change in 200 years, so clearly they can't be speaking
>> current-day English and current-day Russian!
>>
>> Neither language is *too* radically different from their current
>> forms, though, so I think I should be able to pull this off fairly
>> quickly, with just a few pages of explanation of major changes and how
>> to transform normal sentences into their future forms. They should
>> still be mostly mutually intelligible with current General American
>> and standard Russian. Both are, intrafictionally, controlled by
>> standards organizations and have undergone explicit language planning,
>> so I can explain away some features in terms of, essentially,
>> intrafictional conlanging, which makes things easier. Just dipping my
>> toes into the purely a-posteriori realm. I'm pretty excited about it.
>>
>> Рускы is the result of eventual standardization of a few trends that
>> look plausible to me for the natural evolution of Russian from its
>> current state (like the demonstrative <это> becoming a copula),
>> grammatical simplifications (essentially, levelling of irregular
>> paradigms), and another round of spelling reform (although a fairly
>> mild one, since Russian has reasonably phonemic spelling already).
>>
>> Astronautical is a particular dialect of English which, after a
>> century or so of dialectal divergence, becomes standardized as the
>> official form of English that must be learned by all pilots and
>> traffic controllers for anglophone-descended space stations, colonies,
>> etc. Hence the name "Astronautical English" for the language of
>> astronauts. As such, it is a compromise dialect, with a few
>> not-entirely-natural simplifications and other premeditated changes
>> thrown in by the Academy of Astronautical English. This then becomes
>> codified as the official language of numerous independent space
>> colonies. I suspect there is some spelling reform involved here, as
>> well, but that will probably not actually be reflected in the novel
>> text because dialogue becomes much harder to read when it is actually
>> written phonetically to convey dialect. Some of the phonetic and
>> spelling changes, however, will be evidenced by the lexical and
>> grammatical changes that they trigger via the need for homophone
>> resolution.
>>
>> Not sure if there's much discussion to be had about this, but I am
>> excited about this little project, and wanted to tell people. So
>> there.
>>
>> -l.
>>

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