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CONLANG  October 2016, Week 3

CONLANG October 2016, Week 3

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Re: An eastern Asian universal language?

From:

Zach Wellstood <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 19:46:16 -0400

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One solution for the SOV issue would be to use Mandarin 把 (ba) as an
accusative case particle. If you're not familiar with it, it licenses SOV
syntax:
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/%22Ba%22_sentence



portfolio <http://zwelldesigns.com/> · 身先朝露 - 画龙点睛 ·

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:43 PM, William Wright <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It seems to me that one possible solution to some of the presented
> problems might be to weight certain languages contributions based on
> how much of the target speaker population their native speakers
> comprise. That way, more obscure languages (i.e. ones with fewer
> speakers) would not be unnecessarily factored in, which (that is,
> factoring them in) would decrease the number of possible common
> elements for usage in creating the language.
>
> So, as a very, very crude example, say 10% of the target population
> speaks Japanese; then 10% of the lexicon should be of Japanese origin.
>
> It's a rather utilitarian strategy, but if the end goal is to
> facilitate communication (theoretically) between people in East Asia,
> then it might be best to maximize learnability for the maximum number
> of potential speakers for the target population. Naturally, though
> that might not exactly be the goal. At any rate, in this case, this
> might just result in the language essentially becoming a
> slightly-tweaked Mandarin, given the enormous proportion of the total
> population of East Asia its speakers make up (at the very least
> assuming "South Asia", i.e. India, Bangladesh is not included).
>
> Just a thought.
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Isoraqathedh Zorethan
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I have actually made a similar "Esperanto, warts and all" project called
> Man
> > Gog Yuu. It's a bit scattershot and actually it contains quite a _few_
> more
> > flaws than Esperanto strictly does (inconsistent phonology being chief
> among
> > them) but the attack plan is simply to include CJ(KV) lexemes in a
> largely
> > Classical Chinese matrix plus some particles from Japanese that work as
> case
> > endings, written using Korean Mixed script and romanised using
> > Vietnamese-style one space per syllable. You can find everything I posted
> > about it here:
> >
> > https://isoraqathedh.tumblr.com/tagged/Man-gog-yuu
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18.10.2016 05:13, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello subscribers.
> >> I wrote this topic because me and a Japanese friend considered that
> there
> >> could be a language be created for that specific purpose.
> >> We are both Esperanto speakers.
> >> Could there be such a language?
> >> We do know that most-if not all-languages from that region have an SOV
> >> syntax.
> >> Some ideas maybe?
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>          William S. Wright
>

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