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Re: What do you call this phoneme?

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The Scribbler <[log in to unmask]>

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The Scribbler <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:53:35 +0000

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I'll check out the palatals. But no, it's not a plosive. In speaking terms, it's an aspirated h with increased frication due to the narrowing of the channel. All the instances of h have that poof of air bounced off an articulator. This one went sibilant fricative on me in sound and I've been trying to analyze it since. At first I thought maybe nonsibilant despite the hissing, then plunked my hand in front of my mouth and paid attention to the airstream. Then I thought maybe the Swedish sj, which sounds similar or the same, but the articulation description seemed variable in a different way. 
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On Mon, 11/14/16, And Rosta <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: What do you call this phoneme?
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Monday, November 14, 2016, 2:27 AM
 
 On 14 November 2016 at
 09:27, kechpaja <[log in to unmask]>
 wrote:
 
 > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at
 06:43:13AM +0000, The Scribbler wrote:
 >
 > I've got an aspirated voiceless h-like sound where
 the back of the
 > tongue constricts at
 the prevelar location and shoves against the palate
 > but flows laterally over the tongue to hit
 the teeth.
 > >
 >
 > I've never heard of sibilant velar fricative,
 especially one that's
 > basically a
 word-final h that turns nonsibilant fricative with less
 > constricted vowels.
 >
 >
 > Are you sure this isn't just a
 palatal fricative? That's what is sounds
 > like to me. You might want to listen to
 some recordings of palatal
 > fricatives
 and see if they sound like what you're getting
 at.
 >
 
 Altho if it's aspirated then you'd
 expect it to be a palatal plosive [c_h]
 (guessing at what the right CXS is), [cʰ].
 
 --And.

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