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CONLANG December 2016, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Pronouncing Conlangs

From:

Nina-Kristine Johnson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 5 Dec 2016 07:31:10 -0500

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​​
Da musti! (Good morning!)

Ehenív? Absolutely!

I made a bunch of demo videos(also audio only) for both dialects (Desert
and Pirate) and every time: it sounds very *fluid*...and I don't have to
manipulate any words or character pronunciations to make them flow. They
just do it on their own.

Of course, as a bonus: I dress up as an *Ehesh*é*k* (Gerudo) for the
videos. It's because I like to make it seem more *realistic* (encourage the
fan-fic authors who use the language in their pieces...help them *visualise*
a Gerudo speaking it...maybe I'm just totally crackers, because that is how
*I* would want a fan-language creator to do it: I tend to think a bit
outside the box).

As for my phonology: I do have a chart on the website as well as audio
clips to *hear h*ow that character sounds (Not everybody who visits my
site speaks English, natively, so they might pronounce* X character*
differently in their own languages and instinctively, they might pronounce
it differently than how I've prescribed: *that* is why I bothered to sit
down and record *all* my dictionary and alphabet. Try to chip off a bit
of the language barrier, if possible).

http://va-eheniv.conlang.org/gerudolang7.html

Did I answer the correct question? Or was I totally off topic? (very
sorry!)

If not: if anyone wants to see a video or audio skit I made to demonstrate
the language: let me know.

Speaking of: I need to figure out an effective *pronunciation key*
(written) for the Official, Ehenív Dictionary, which I am currently
translating into Spanish. Anyone know where I can find information on that?

Tisala'e! (Cheers!),
Kristine



On 5 December 2016 at 06:32, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On 05/12/2016 00:59, Sabrina wrote:
>
>> I’m curious; how many of people can pronounce their
>> conlangs
>>
>
> As it happens I can - but see below.
>
> and speak them (which is to say, read or recite a
>> memorized bit) fluidly?
>>
>
> Not at the moment - but I see no reason why I could not do this.
>
> If so, did you design the phonology to be pronounceable
>> by you, or did design the phonology according to purely
>> aesthetic/other reasons and practice pronouncing it
>> yourself later?
>>
>
> Other reasons - see below.
>
> Second question, kind of ties in to the first, do you
>> think being able to articulate one’s conlang is
>> important, or secondary to aesthetics?
>>
>
> It surely depends on the type of language you are constructing.
>
> If it's an auxlang then you would be advised to keep
> phonology fairly simple, allowing for acceptable variation.
>
> If it's an artlang you would probably go for sounds you like
> and can probably pronounce; though you might (e.g. Tolkien's
> Orkish) go for sounds that you consider ugly, and you might
> well include sounds you find difficult to pronounce.
>
> If it's an engelang, pronunciation may well be of secondary
> (or tertiary) importance; it depends on the design
> principles of the language.
>
> As for my own conlangs:
> All the various versions of the briefscript project had as
> one its design objects "[p]honemes should be restricted to
> those that most people in the world already know or can
> learn to pronounce easily."
>
> TAKE is simply ancient Greek without inflexions.  But we do
> not know _exactly_ how ancient Greek was pronounced, so it
> uses what is basically an Erasmian pronunciation of the
> language.
>
> Britainese is 'yet another Romance conlang' so is not likely
> to develop any very 'difficult' sounds.  But the phonology
> is definitely not being developed according to my aesthetic
> tastes!  I have been trying to be strictly _objective_ as I
> 'uncover' its diachronic  phonology and, in the early
> stages, I think I have reasonably do this.  But I was
> privately taken to task by two of the list members over
> developments in the modern version because I had let
> personal aesthetics dominate.  I have since recast the later
> developments    :)
>
> But my view is that phonology should be developed according
> to the requirements of the conlang and if that means
> including difficult to pronounce phonemes, so be it.
>
> Ray
>

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