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CONLANG April 2017, Week 3

Subject:

Re: A Proto-Phonology

From:

Melroch <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:02:54 +0200

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>
> I'm tinkering with Celimine again, and thought it might be nice to get
> some feedback on the broad outlines of its diachronic phonology.
>
> The consonants in Proto-C have a palatalized / velarized distinction,
> similar to Irish or Russian (although not every consonants in the
> "palatalized" is actually phonetically palatalized, and not every
> consonant in the velarized set is actually phonetically velarized).
>
> The inventory as currently envisioned is as follows:
>
> Palatal  ~  Velar
>
> Plosives:
> pʲ  bʲ ~ p  b
> tʲ  dʲ ~ t  d
> c ɟ ~ k  g
>
> Nasals:
> mʲ ~ m
> ɲ ~ n
> ŋʲ ~ ŋ

Thats a pretty tenuous distinction ɳ vs ŋʲ you have there. I'd expect nʲ
vs. ɲ because ŋʲ pretty much is another, usually phonologically motivated,
way of writing ɲ. It would be a nice touch if there was no coronal/dorsal
distinction in nasals on the palatal side though. This phonology cries out
for an assymetry. :-)

>
> Fricatives:
> fʲ  vʲ ~ f  v
> z ~ ʂ
>
> Approximants:
> ɹʲ ~ ɹ

ɹ ~ r/ɾ would be kind of realistic here.

> l ~ ɫ
>
> I figure at an even earlier stage, /ʂ/ developed from an unvoiced
> version of /ɹ/, and then got re-analyzed to pair up with its fellow
> sibilant /z/ instead. Or perhaps it came about as a merger of /ɹ/ and
> /z/, or something like that.

Any particular reason it's not just s? In fact sʲ becoming ʂ and s becoming
z seems more likely.

>
> Meanwhile, there is a vertical four-vowel system, attested in natlangs
> in Marshallese:
>
> /ɨ/
> /ɘ/
> /ɜ/
> /a/
>
> Like Marshallese, there's a bunch of allophony, but the details are
> different. Basically, neighboring a palatal consonant triggers
> fronting, and neighboring a velar consonant triggers backing,

I happened to read the WP page on Irish phonology yesterday (looking for
natlang attestations of ɞ) and it said there are those favoring such an
analysis for Irish non-high vowels. I could definitely see how that could
make the allophony description for mid vowels simpler.

> while
> getting sandwiched in between the two results in front-back
> diphthongs.

In Irish that's apparently where the central allophones get attested, with
palatal on/off glides probably.

>
> So, how does that look as far as plausibility for a natural phonemic
inventory?

OK, except for the unlikely z ~ ʂ pairing.

>
> The sound changes that produce the modern Celimine phonemic inventory
> involve a process of displaced contrast that collapses the
> palatal/velar distinction in consonants and splits the vowels into an
> 8-vowel system with front/back harmony, and a process of intervocalic
> lenition that introduces a bunch of new fricatives and approximants,

Shame on you for rushing over the most interesting part! ;-)

> resulting in these modern inventories:
>
> Vowels:
> /i/ /u/
> /ɪ/ /ʊ/
> /e/ /o/
> /ɛ/ /ɑ/

I'd expect [æ] [ɑ]. Pretty crowded in front otherwise.

>
> Stops:
> p b
> t d
> k g

I'd expect at lest some coronal affricates given all those ancestral
palatalized stops. There is French -- and Swedish and Norwegian! -- for
ANADEW though.

>
> Nasals:
> m
> n
> ŋ
>
> Fricatives:
> f v
> θ  ð
> s z
> x  ɣ
> h
>
> Approximants:
> w
> j
> r
> l

What happened to ɲ? Merged with j?

>
> and the proto-C inventory is basically reverse-engineered to produce
> the originally a-priori vowel harmony and this phonemic consonant
> inventory, along with vowel-conditioned consonant allophony like /s/
> -> [s],[ʂ], /g/ -> [g], [ɟ], with a reasonable, realistic set of sound
> changes.
>
> -l.

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