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AUXLANG April 2017, Week 4

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Re: Worldlang vocabulary - was: Pandunia news

From:

Leo Moser <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:14:45 -0700

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From below:
> eger = assuming that
> agar = in case that

The distinction is slight, but if it appeals to you, they could both be in an IAL.
Unless, of course it purports to be a minimal vocabulary IAL.

Both are ways of saying "if". Come from forms of the same word.
if [ Azeri=əgər; 
if [ Baluchi=age /aga;
if [ Bashkir= әgәr
if [ Kakakh= eger;
if [ Chuvash: ekher;
if [ Crimean Tatar=eger;
if [ Darma=agar;
if [ Dogri=əgər;  
if [ Emāmzāda=age;
if [ Fārs=agar;
if [ Fiji Hindi=agar;
if [ Gagauz= eğer;
if [ Garmsiri=age;
if [ Gīlakī=æger;
if [ Hindi=agar /agara; 
if [ Kaidipang=agu;
if [ Katcha=adhi;
if [ Koroshi=aga;
if [ Kuhpāya=age;
if [ Kulābi=agar;
if [ Kurdish(Sorani)=eger;
if [ Kyrgyz= eger;
if [ Maithili= agar;
if [ Māsaramī=ägär;
if [ Neo-Mandaic=agar;
if [ Pahari (Mahasu)=agər;
if [ Pārsīg=agar;
if [ Punjabi=jēkara;
if [ Sarnami=agar;
if [ Shikomor=eka;
if [ Tajik=agar;
if [ Tsakhur=agar;
if [ Turkish=eğer;
if [ Turkmen=eger;
if [ Uzbek=agar;
if [ Urdu=agar;
if [ Uyghur=eger;
if [ Zazaki: eger;
 (Partial list}

Best wishes,           LEO

-----Original Message-----
From: International Auxiliary Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Olivier Simon
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:49 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Worldlang vocabulary - was: Pandunia news

<<> LdP has "hima" for "winter", it's me who suggested it to Dmitry ! :-)

<But why winter? It's a different thing than snow. I would prefer "zima", which is a real, modern word.

Because Dmitry sought a word for "winter". I think LdP has already "snega". 


> And Sambahsa has both "winter" and "ghim" (this later from PIE).

<<Are they synonyms?

Yes, they are. 

> Sambahsa has other words from roots you've mentionned :
> 
> varf = snow-covered mountain top

<<Isn't it too specific? You could use compound word like snowpeak. It would be immediately understandable and burden less memory.

I suppose we understand what is meant here. Maybe "pic de neige" would too much like "ice-pike" in French. 

> eger = assuming that
> agar = in case that

<<Eh...? So, basically, the same word family has produced two separate word instances in Sambahsa with slightly different meanings. And both meanings are slightly off compared to the original.

Why not ? That avoids répétitions in translations. 
Two instances from the same root in the same language are not rare in some natlangs. Ex : French "cheville" vs. "clavicule", "chancre" vs "cancer", etc. 


Olivier

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