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CONLANG May 2017, Week 3

Subject:

Re: "Elg" and other Tirëlat words with odd phonology

From:

A Walker Scott <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 19 May 2017 12:38:54 +1100

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Alb is another -lb word in English, but it's rare.

On Thursday, May 18, 2017, Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> "Elg" is the Tirëlat word for rubber. It's not just the only Tirëlat word
> ending in -lg, it's the only one ending in any consonant cluster that
> starts with l. It doesn't sound much like a Tirëlat word, and there's a
> reason for that ... it's one of the earliest words I made, before I'd
> established the general sound of the language. And since I haven't had much
> need for it, unlike other words that have been reshaped to fit the language
> as it developed, "elg" was left in its original state.
>
> I looked around to see what else I could find: here's some other odd words:
>
> sënt "bone"
> the only word ending in a consonant cluster that starts with n.
>
> ljërg "chain", zurğ "war", zyrb "raspberry"
> the only words ending in a consonant cluster that starts with r, all old
> words.
>
> vog "computer program"
> the only word other than "elg" and "ljërg" that ends in -g, another old
> one.
>
> With the exception of "sënt", these are all old words that have largely
> gone unused, except for "zurğ" which I used in my "Love is War"
> translation. I could change these, but then I look at English, and we've
> got words like these:
>
> bulb
> the only word I can think of that ends in -lb
>
> bilge, bulge
> I can't think of any other words that end in -lǰ
>
> kiln
> the only word I can think of that ends in -ln (if you pronounce the n)
>
> eighth
> in my pronunciation it ends in -tθ, the only word I know of that does
>
> On the other hand, English has lots of words ending in clusters like -ld,
> -nd, -rb, and so on. Consonant clusters are rare at the end of Tirëlat
> words, and most of them are pairs of voiceless consonants like "rhisp" or
> "łuxk". Voiced consonants in general are uncommon at the end of Tirëlat
> words, though.
>
> The other thing I've been looking at is the absence of certain endings
> that might be expected. Some of these, like -oz and -uł, may be simply a
> result of the small vocabulary size (there may be words ending in -uł or
> -oz that I haven't "discovered" yet). Other endings, like -ij and -uv, may
> be absent for phonological reasons. One odd thing is that -b, -p, and -w
> are unusually rare, but -v is common. And the only vowel that occurs before
> final -w is "a". That seems odd, but then I think of Japanese, where
> initial w- is always followed by "a" in native words (not counting the
> particle "wo").
>
> So although I might want to change words like "elg" and "sënt" to be more
> like "eleg" or "sënët", less alien to the Tirëlat phonotactics, or on the
> other hand introduce many more words of the same sort, I think I might just
> leave them alone, at least for now.
>

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