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CONLANG  May 2017, Week 3

CONLANG May 2017, Week 3

Subject:

Re: speaker's gender affect on language

From:

"Paul Schleitwiler, FCM" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 16 May 2017 14:36:27 -0500

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Very interesting, Allison!!
I sent your link to my granddaughter.
Seems to agree with some of her results.
Thank you.
God bless you always, all ways,
Paul

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Allison Swenson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Something related that may be of interest--an online study Randall Munroe
> of xkcd did on naming colors (with some discussion of gender differences):
> https://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 6:17 PM Paul Schleitwiler, FCM <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I don't see any explicit reference to that but I will ask. The method
> used
> > was to show subjects color samples and ask them to name and describe
> them.
> > Colorblind responses would probably become apparent given a larger sample
> > population.
> >
> > Good point. What if your conlang is used by speakers with differing
> visual
> > abilities?
> >
> > New tools for the blind turn visual images into tactile sensations which
> > are processed by the "visual" cortex and perceived as images. So far,
> they
> > only show value not hue. What color words will develop when tools are
> > created for seeing infrared, uv, radio et al. like VR glasses?
> >
> > God bless you always, all ways,
> > Paul
> >
> > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Paul Schleitwiler, FCM <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Chris Peters <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Was there any part of the study that controlled for legitimate visual
> > >> differences -- ie, that men are many times more likely to be
> colorblind?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]> on
> behalf
> > >> of Paul Schleitwiler, FCM <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:28 PM
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Subject: speaker's gender affect on language
> > >>
> > >> One granddaughter sent me a pdf of the research study she did for a
> > >> college
> > >> class about gender differences in the use of language to describe
> > colors.
> > >> The result was interesting.
> > >>
> > >> "... this study did in fact conclude that there is a difference that
> is
> > >> evident between
> > >> the semantics and pragmatics of genders that does not appear to be
> > >> affected
> > >> by nationality, age, the amount of schooling, or any other number of
> > >> socioeconomic factors, including their workplace. Wolfram and Estes
> > >> states,
> > >> “in every language, there are a variety of ways to convey the same
> > >> information or accomplish the same purpose, and the choice is of how
> to
> > >> say
> > >> something depends upon who is talking to whom under what
> circumstances”
> > >> (Wolfram and Eses 86)."
> > >>
> > >> Also, while women used more names for colors, their descriptions were
> > >> "more
> > >> specific, less certain, and less objective" than those of the men.
> > >>
> > >> While only a minor study by an undergraduate who isn't a linguistics
> > >> major,
> > >> I thought to share this with you as seed for three or more
> discussions,
> > >>     reactions to the study itself,
> > >>     implications for color language in conlangs,
> > >>     implications  for the concultures using conlangs ...
> > >>
> > >> For example, can we tell from a written description of color whether
> the
> > >> author was male or female? Why might a language develop certain ways
> of
> > >> speaking about colors? Since some languages have different forms for
> > >> speakers who are male or female, or of different age or status or
> > >> affinity,
> > >> what might this study suggest about specific areas, like color, for
> > >> conlangs?
> > >>
> > >> God bless you always, all ways,
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> I have finally discovered what’s wrong with my brain: On the left
> side,
> > >> there is nothing right, and on the right side, there is nothing left.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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