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CONLANG  May 2017, Week 3

CONLANG May 2017, Week 3

Subject:

Re: speaker's gender affect on language

From:

Jyri Lehtinen <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 17 May 2017 15:15:49 +0200

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How well do these studies differentiate actual perception of colour from
cultural factors? There isn't necessarily a one-to-one correspondence
between different degrees of perceiving colour differences and how fine
grained colour terminology you bother using in your everyday life. As an
example, when I look out from my window, I can see a bunch of different
colours but at the same time I'm happiest to simply call most of them
"green".

   -Jyri


2017-05-17 13:44 GMT+02:00 Juliano Cruz Gusmão <[log in to unmask]>:

> It is already confirmed that women are better in differentiating colors and
> man, shapes. This result came from scientific researchs.
> I think this can endorse those results.
> And yes, I think the description might give a clue of the gender of the
> speaker. Althought not 100% certain, I'm a man but work with drawing,
> painting and desing, therefore, I percieve colors better than men who don't
> work in thes fields, as long as a woman architect would describe well
> shapes and forms.
>
> Happy to contribut,
>
> Juliano.
>
> Juliano Cruz Gusmão.
>
> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
> Facebook: Juliano Cruz Gusmão
>
>
> "O pássaro de Minerva só alça seu vôo ao cair da noite."
> "La birdo de Minerva nur ekflugas cxe la nokta ekapero."
>      Hegel
>
> "Sem um desvio do normal, o progresso é impossível."
> "Sen devio de la normaleco, la progresso neeblas."
>      Frank Zappa
>
> "Os cegos fazem de tudo para ver a luz, os tolos, para não vê-la"
> "La blinduloj faros cxion por vidi la lumon, la stultoj, por ne gxin vidi."
>      A. H. fuerstenthal
>
> 2017-05-11 16:28 GMT-03:00 Paul Schleitwiler, FCM <
> [log in to unmask]>:
>
> > One granddaughter sent me a pdf of the research study she did for a
> college
> > class about gender differences in the use of language to describe colors.
> > The result was interesting.
> >
> > "... this study did in fact conclude that there is a difference that is
> > evident between
> > the semantics and pragmatics of genders that does not appear to be
> affected
> > by nationality, age, the amount of schooling, or any other number of
> > socioeconomic factors, including their workplace. Wolfram and Estes
> states,
> > “in every language, there are a variety of ways to convey the same
> > information or accomplish the same purpose, and the choice is of how to
> say
> > something depends upon who is talking to whom under what circumstances”
> > (Wolfram and Eses 86)."
> >
> > Also, while women used more names for colors, their descriptions were
> "more
> > specific, less certain, and less objective" than those of the men.
> >
> > While only a minor study by an undergraduate who isn't a linguistics
> major,
> > I thought to share this with you as seed for three or more discussions,
> >     reactions to the study itself,
> >     implications for color language in conlangs,
> >     implications  for the concultures using conlangs ...
> >
> > For example, can we tell from a written description of color whether the
> > author was male or female? Why might a language develop certain ways of
> > speaking about colors? Since some languages have different forms for
> > speakers who are male or female, or of different age or status or
> affinity,
> > what might this study suggest about specific areas, like color, for
> > conlangs?
> >
> > God bless you always, all ways,
> > Paul
> >
> > I have finally discovered what’s wrong with my brain: On the left side,
> > there is nothing right, and on the right side, there is nothing left.
> >
>

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