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CONLANG  June 2017, Week 3

CONLANG June 2017, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Waking from a long slumber.

From:

David Peterson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 16 Jun 2017 00:01:44 -0700

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I see this thread has taken on a life of its own, so sorry for responding to an old message, but if I had anything to do with getting you back to conlanging, I couldn't be happier. Your projects are always fascinating, and I always look forward to messages from you on Conlang-L that don't have an re: in front of them (because it means there's something new!). Can't wait to see where this one goes!

-David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Great Idea! I love Twain. I would have to avoid the works with heavy
> dialects though.
> 
> The http://cryptopian.com/Conlang/index.html link is working again. It
> doesn't have everything that used to be there, but I did get a lot of the
> content restored from an old backup disk.
> 
> Also thanks for getting me back into conlanging. It was watching Game of
> Thrones and marveling over Valyrian, followed by watching a dozen or so of
> your YouTube videos that rekindled the fire. :)
> 
> --gary
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:10 AM, David Peterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> I really don't think 2,000 words is too short to be challenging, but did
>> you consider looking at Mark Twain? Not his novels, but his essays or short
>> stories. Him or Poe. Both in the public domain, both should be around the
>> length you're looking for.
>> 
>> Regarding your conlang work, I'm delighted to see you have a website again,
>> since you're last one seems to have suddenly vanished without a word as to
>> where it went. You have so much material, it would be a shame to lose it.
>> I'm hopeful that all your old stuff is on your new site somewhere, but if
>> you go here...
>> 
>> http://cryptopian.com/Conlang/index.html
>> 
>> ...you'll note that you get a 404. Are you going to turn it into your
>> conlang home page again some time soon?
>> 
>> Nice to hear you're conlanging again!
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On the occasion of setting up a new computer, I found my old hard drive
>>> folder "Conlangs" contains 982 MB in 8,110 files in 455 folders. And
>> when I
>>> saw that the most recent update on any of those files was back in 2014,
>> it
>>> occurred to me that maybe, just maybe, it was about time to take on a new
>>> conlang project. (I've been an off-and-on member of this listserv since
>>> 2003. Latley more off than on.)
>>> 
>>> So the first decision was; do I transfer all that conlang data to the new
>>> computer, or do I archive it on the top shelf of the closet and start all
>>> over from scratch.  Given that most of my conlang sketches were pretty
>>> atrocious, I decided that I might as well start over from scratch.
>>> 
>>> In the past I paid no attention at all to phonology, and ended up with
>>> strange, seemingly random sounds that seldom hung together well. So this
>>> time I'm going to start with the phonology, phonotactics, and morphology.
>>> 
>>> Also, in the past I didn't give much thought to the reason for a given
>>> conlang. The exception was my 30-day conlang Txtana from 2010. The
>> purpose
>>> of that conlang was self-explanatory: Build a conlang from scratch in 30
>>> days. (Here's the result: http://cryptopian.com/Conlang/thirty_day.html
>> )
>>> 
>>> Also in the past (with the exception just mentioned), I've had no real
>>> hard-and-fast target to keep my project on track.
>>> 
>>> So I gave it a few days thought and decided to start a new conlang from
>>> scratch. It will be a "funlang", just for fun, and so as to make it
>>> non-naturalistic (and more fun), it will be utterly consistent. Every
>> rule
>>> is iron-clad, and no exceptions will be allowed. As to it's typology, I
>>> haven't yet decided. I've usually tended to isolating grammars so maybe
>>> this time I'll go for highly inflected, just to be different. But I
>> haven't
>>> decided yet.
>>> 
>>> As for my target, I've decided to solicit suggestions. Here's what I have
>>> in mind: A piece of fiction, shorter than book length, but not so short
>> as
>>> to be trivial, in the public domain, that I can use as my target
>>> translation exercise. 50,000 words is too intimidating, and 2,000 words
>> is
>>> too short to be challenging. 4,000 to 8,000 sounds about right to me. It
>>> should be available online (e.g. Gutenberg.org).
>>> 
>>> I'm certainly not asking anyone to go searching for something suitable,
>> but
>>> only asking if you already know of some piece of moderate length fiction
>>> you like that might serve my purpose.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any advice.
>>> 
>>> I'm going to start a page on my web site to post my progress as I go.
>>> 
>>> --gary
>>> 
>> 

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