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CONLANG  July 2017, Week 3

CONLANG July 2017, Week 3

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Re: Major Conlang Reboot

From:

Christa Hansberry <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:03:42 -0600

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Well, Krispúket is basically a total reboot of the original Krispúkét, but
since neither of them got beyond a few words and some vague grammatical
ideas, I don't think that counts for much :-Ъ

-Christa

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Aidan Aannestad <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I've done it a few times. The first conlang I ever did (starting in
> seventh grade, now something like ten years ago) has been abandoned and
> restarted twice now. At first, I actually started to do one of those
> philosophical categorising languages; not because I was all that interested
> in the philosophy behind it, just because I didn't want to have to make new
> vocabulary :P It's maintained many of the same aesthetics since, though -
> the largely CV syllable structure with a relatively small inventory is an
> aesthetic that I still like these days. It's now got a legitimate
> diachronic history now, though, and if you compare its ancestor to the
> current version you can still see that I've learned a lot about linguistics
> since I did the ancestor language seven years ago! I'm going to need to
> retcon it in some significant ways in the future.
> On 2017/07/14 10:08:38, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The first conlang from my childhood, circa 1952, was a Pig Latin remake I
> called Igpaya Ussianruski. Although ever so slightly more "sophisticated"
> than Pig Latin, it was then, and will always be beyond all hope of becoming
> a "more mature" conlang. :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Raymond Brown
> wrote:
>
> > Looking at Qenya and Flaidish and Volapuk and some thoughts came to > me:
> >> > > How many of you have undertaken a major revision (or "reboot"
> >>
> > or > "reimagination") of a long-existing conlang of yours? If so, why?
> > The briefscript project which I bewgan in the late 1950s has had several
> > major revisions during its time before I eventually abandoned it in April
> > 2013. A _brief_ and incomplete summary is given here together with the
> > reasons for its eventual abandonment:
> > http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Briefscript/Index.html
> >
> > The summary is incomplete because I've lost notes/records of details of
> > many of the earlier sketches.
> >
> > How did you recreate a conlang from your childhood into a more > "mature"
> >> conlang?
> >>
> > I haven't. Most of the conlangs of my teens were auxlangs, vaguely
> > inspired by Esperanto; the only one that might have lent itself to a
> later
> > more mature development would have "Venusian", but I have no notes on it
> > and did not develop it.
> >
> > How did you ensure that the revision of your conlang had the same >
> >> "flavor" as the original (if such were your goal)?
> >>
> > Never been a consideration. Indeed, such revisions that I have undertaken
> > have been because I did _not_ what to retain the flavor. The most recent
> > revision (not entitely completed) was of the Britainese vowels. My
> > original scheme was similar to Spanish because - let's be honest - it's
> the
> > vowel system I like best among the Romance languages. But it was rightly
> > criticised by two members of this list as not being in keeping with what
> > linguistic development in Britain and Gaul would suggest. The flavor had
> > to be changed! The still incomplete result may be found here:
> > http://www.carolandray.plus.com/BART/vowels.html
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Does Ido feel like Esperanto?
> >>
> > IMO they're dialects of the same language. :)
> >
> > What do you think of de Jong's Volapuk?
> >>
> > A modest reform which the Volapük community seem happy with. But any
> > substantial reform would cause the language to fall apart as one sees
> > indeed in the many various off-shoots of Volapük such as Spelin, Bolak,
> > Balta, Dil, Nal Bino etc., etc.
> >
> > Ray
> >
>

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