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CONLANG August 2017, Week 1

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Re: Fiat Lingua: A Tsolyani Assignment

From:

James Hopkins <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 1 Aug 2017 05:31:39 -0400

Content-Type:

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text/plain (72 lines)

Sheri ta uuzhshikaudey ta Tsolianit sholey franartantoilu ishvemavit
onyaru. Pashni djeyeldjemarizhe bachulivit onyara djur vey izmuizhe
ra-dayaru reshkín dini ta sit'sholdiit ayunasan ar versidjova ra-kamizyara.
Ta minfereshit Tsolianit dzoniakova djura dakya iskemyavu vey pashni chipit
onyara khaá.

I have long wondered about the obscurity of the Tsolyani language. It is
deeply and fully developed and I don't really understand why it doesn't
receive more attention in the conlang community. I managed to acquire the
three book Tsolyani grammar and it is very interesting indeed.

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Wow! That's a great find! Tsolyáni is indeed relatively obscure even in our
> community, so it's great to see it gaining more exposure :).
>
> Cheers,
> Christophe
>
> On 1 August 2017 at 09:35, David Peterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I'm pleased to introduce a rather rare find for this month's Fiat
> Lingua. I
> > met up recently with John Moore, professor of syntax at UC San Diego, and
> > my former professor, who mentioned to me that he had been a TA for
> linguist
> > Bill Shipley at UC Santa Cruz, where he taught a class featuring a
> conlang
> > assignment. Bill Shipley, it turns out, had been a former colleague of
> > M.A.R. Barker, creator of the Tsolyani language, at UC Berkeley. After
> > moving to UC Santa Cruz, Barker gave Shipley an ornamental plaque,
> > featuring the Tsolyani language. In Shipley's class, he gave students a
> > copy of the explanation for that text as a reference for their own
> conlang
> > assignment. After John told me this, I asked him if he had a copy of that
> > paper, and he said he probably did in a box somewhere, but wasn't sure if
> > he could find it.
> >
> > But he did!
> >
> > He scanned in the document for Fiat Lingua and provided a preface to
> > situate it in its historical context, and now you can read it here:
> >
> > http://fiatlingua.org/2017/08/
> >
> > It's both a rare glimpse at what has to be one of the earliest conlang
> > assignments I've heard of (this would be the early 1980s), and at the
> work
> > of M.A.R. Barker, whose Tsolyani language is still relatively unknown
> both
> > in the conlanging community and in the RPG community, let alone the rest
> of
> > the world.
> >
> > If you have anything you'd like to submit to Fiat Lingua, feel free to
> > contact me! Anything conlang-related or of interest to conlangers is fair
> > game.
> >
> > -David
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets
> President of the Language Creation Society (http://conlang.org/)
>
> Personal Website: http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
> Personal Tumblr: http://christophoronomicon.tumblr.com/
>

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