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Re: Why doesn't English permit tl or dl as true consonant combinations?

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J S Jones <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:24:17 -0400

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:38:15 -0400, Matthew George <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Working on my conlang, I've been slowly gaining insight into why languages
>possess or lack certain features, and that's given me a whole new
>appreciation for my native language.  There are still some points on which
>I'm confused as to why certain restrictions might exist.
>
>For example, the combination of a stop followed by an approximant is really
>common, but there's to my mind a very peculiar gap.  'r' can be combined
>freely, but 'l' doesn't follow the alveolar stops as far as I can tell.
>All the instances of what at first appears to be that really has a vocalic
>'l' - as in 'riddle' or 'little'.  'pl' exists, as in 'plan', 'kl' as in
>'clock', 'bl' and 'gl' as in 'blue' and 'glue'.  But 'tl' and 'dl' aren't
>permitted.  It's possible to articulate those combinations,  I find it
>rather easier than the alveolar lateral fricative, which 'tl' is sometimes
>used to indicate.
>
>What reason, if any, is there for that restriction?
>
>Matt G.

PIE seems to have had *tlV and *dhlV, which ended up as kVlV (e.g. -culum) and bVlV (e.g. bilis) in Latin, so no Latin borrowings with tl or dl. I have no idea what happened in Germanic.

Jeff

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