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CONLANG September 2017, Week 3

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Re: Conlanging dream

From:

Christa Hansberry <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 20 Sep 2017 02:07:58 -0600

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I don't generally find my dreams linguistically inspiring; such gibberish
as is spoken in them is generally forgotten almost immediately when I wake
up. I did find it mildly amusing a few years ago when I spoke coherent,
grammatical Esperanto in a dream...

And there was one sorta conlang-related dream I had more recently, that I
found mildly interesting: I dreamed I was going to a Klingon convention,
and I was really nervous because my Klingon language skills are negligible.
But then it didn't matter because nobody else showed up. XD

-Christa

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Daniel Bowman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > How did the term come about?  Was it coined in the dream, or after you
> woke
> > up?  If in the dream, was it supposed to be in gzb?  Based on your
> message
> > I assume not.  Some unnamed conlang, then?
>
> In the dream, I think it was an English neologism.  I seem to have
> forgotten to mention that there was a song, roughly in the style of
> musicals such as Mary Poppins or The Sound of Music, in which the word
> "havoli" occurred in the refrain.  The only other words from the song
> I remember were the phrase "on stranger tides" (with a high note on
> "strang-"), the title of a Tim Powers novel.  In the dream, I remember
> thinking, as I heard someone singing that, "oh, that's where Tim
> Powers got that title."  But when I woke up I remembered that the
> title really comes from a Clark Ashton Smith poem.  And then, when I
> thought to double-check that, I found that the epigraph to _On
> Stranger Tides_ is actually a poem by William Ashbless (a joint
> pseudonym of Powers and James Blaylock); it's _The Stress of Her
> Regard_ that comes from a Clark Ashton Smith poem.
>
> > As a high altitude balloon builder I enjoy the wonderful physical
> > impossibility of being lifted into the sky on a party balloon.  Even were
> > you able to make a "vacuum balloon" it still wouldn't work!
>
> Yes, it would have to have negative mass.  Maybe one could posit such
> material in a far-future sf story or a fantasy story.
>
> > And how did you come to remember it? I find that I remember details
> > of dreams (such as verbal details), as opposed to the broad narrative
> content,
> > only if I wake up during the dream and immediately think to immediately
>
> I sent that email right after waking from an afternoon nap.
>
> > Consequently remembered verbal details are rare for me, but delightful.
>
> I occasionally remember words or phrases from dreams.  If you search
> the archives for "semantomissiliar discs" you'll find a thread about
> another such dream.  One dream I remember from when I was pretty young
> (early teens?) involved a poem of which I remember only the last line,
> "Butterflies open like books."  I could mention a few others, but the
> ones that come to mind offhand were from nightmares and I don't want
> to inflict them on others.
>
> --
> Jim Henry
> http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
> http://www.jimhenrymedicaltrust.org
>

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