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CONLANG  October 2017, Week 3

CONLANG October 2017, Week 3

Subject:

Re: New Conlang: Dhakhsh

From:

Brian Bourque <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:26:03 -0400

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 21:46:15 +0300, kechpaja <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Ékivrin!
>
>> *Not sure if I should go with /ɪ/ instead
>
>If your /ə/ patterns with the back vowels, and we assume that /æ/ and
>/œ/ together fill the gap left by not having an /e/ (perhaps /æ/ comes
>from earlier /*e/?), you have a system that IIRC resembles that of
>Korean, which has /u o ɯ ʌ/ for back vowels but only /e i/ and in some
>dialects /ɛ/ in the front, plus central /a/.

It's interesting that you mentioned Korean, as it is one of the inspirations for a couple of the vowels I chose. Namely, /œ/ (왜 or 외) and /ɯ/ (으). I decided against /e/ and especially /ɛ/ since it is so prevalent in Lortho. I am thinking that this language will be a bit more lackadaisical with its pronunciation of certain vowels, but it is too early to tell. 

>
>> **I feel that if /œ/ exists, should /y/ coexist?
>
>IIRC languages are more likely to have only /y/ than only /œ/, but that
>doesn't mean you can't have only /œ/. Perhaps /œ/ was originally a
>central /ʉ/, which was lowered due to crowding of the high vowel space.
>
>Given that set of vowels, it seems likely that /œ/ would eventually
>unround to /ɛ/. On the other hand, though, Hungarian has a very low /ɛ/
>phoneme that is sometimes transcribed as /æ/, and /ø/, but no short /e/
>in the standard language (there is a long /e:/ though, and a short /e/
>in some dialects). If /æ/ and /œ/ are fairly closer together
>height-wise, speakers may still perceive /æ/ as the unrounded
>counterpart to /œ/.
>
>I hope this helps!
>
> - kechpaja -

This is rather quite helpful and got my gears turning. Thank you for the input!

very respectfully,

Brian Bourque
SFC, USA (Ret)
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