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CONLANG February 2018, Week 1

Subject:

Re: A monosyllabic problem

From:

David McCann <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 4 Feb 2018 16:44:51 +0000

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On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 21:01:44 -0500
ATMunn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> So, I've started adding some basic root words to my conlang (which
> now has a name by the way, it's called Tamuni). I've encountered a
> problem, however.
> 
> I thought it logical to start by creating some simple, one-syllable
> root words to convey simpler concepts, and create derivations and
> more complicated words later.
> 
> However, a problem quickly arose: My language, being roughly modeled
> off of Polynesian languages, has a very restrictive syllable
> structure and phonetic inventory. There are only 11 consonants
> (excluding the glottal stop, which words cannot start with), and 8
> vowel sounds (including dipthongs.) The syllable structure is
> (C)(C)V, but the only allowed pairs are tr, kr, fr, kl, and fl, so
> when you do the math, this comes up with only 136 possible
> single-syllable words.
> 
> Although that is a decent amount, it's certainly not enough to convey 
> all the different simple meanings that I would want. Then, there's
> also the fact that single-syllable words are probably likely to have
> a more grammatical function, and that if every single one of those 
> single-syllable words had a meaning, then longer words could be
> somewhat confusing, as they might seem to be combinations of two root
> words, when they're really not at all.
> 
> So, how many simple, non-grammatical root words should I roughly aim 
> for? What kinds of meanings should they be assigned to?

Perhaps a simple syllabic structure and monosyllabic roots are not
really compatible! The Proto-Austronesian roots are mostly two
syllables, if I remember correctly. In the Australian languages, most
of the proto-roots had two syllables, but there are some basic verbs
that reconstruct with one.

I don't think the long words would be a problem. We don't see "admire"
as "add" + "mire", after all. And don't forget that you don't have to
use compounding: some languages, like the Semitic ones, stick to
derivation.

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