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CONLANG  February 2018, Week 2

CONLANG February 2018, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Small secondary development

From:

Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:42:33 +0000

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On 12/02/2018 11:42, Raymond Brown wrote:
> On 11/02/2018 20:56, Melroch wrote:
[snip]

>> Then there is the Occitan/Catalan _aig(u)a_ to consider. It does 
>> seem to have a French counterpart in the place names 
>> _Aix-la-Chapelle_ and _Aix-en-Provence_,
> 
> Correct - _aix_ /ɛks/ = _eaux_ - but unlike its french equivalent, 
> the final -x is pronounced.  :)
> 
>> but I don't understand where the yod comes from any better than 
>> anybody else, so I should probably leave it alone.
> 
> I've tried very searches to find out, but in vain (so far).  Unless 
> Rhodrese is related to the Occitan-Catlan group, it is probably best 
> to leave it alone.  :)

Everwhere I've looked on the Internet I've found nothing more
enlightening that that _aig(u)a_ is derived from Latin _aqua_ - which,
of course, we all knew and it doesn't explain that yod.

Looking in volume 1 of Eugène Rabiet's French translation of W.
Meyer-Lübke's "Grammatik der romanischen Sprachen", I find:
{quote}
275. Du latin _aqua_ est sorti dans la Haute-Italie, la Rhétie et la
France du Sud _*augua_, d'où eng. _auua_, Fourgs _auwa_, Plancher _ove_,
ailleurs _aiga_ : a.-vénit., a.-véron., a.-gen., a.-piém., a.-prov.,
gén. moderne _äva_, piém. _eva_, gallur. _eba_.
{/quote}

Thus Meyer-Lübke considers _aiga_ (and presumably _aigua_) to be derived
from *augua.  If this is so, then the shift from [u̯] -> [i̯] before [g]
must be due to dissimilation as IIRC Alex suggested.

This does not have any bearing on Britainese developments nor, I
suspect, on Rhodrese.

Ray

PS - abbreviations in the quote above:
eng. = Engadine
a.-vénit. = old Venetian
a.-véron. = old Veronese
a.-gen. = old Genoese
a.-piém. = old Piedmontese
a>-prov. = old Provençal
gén. = Genoese
gallur. = Gallurese (an Italo-Dalmatian Romance lang spoken in the
region of Gallura)

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