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CONLANG  February 2018, Week 3

CONLANG February 2018, Week 3

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Re: Britainese 'water, tonge' and 'widow' revisited

From:

Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 20 Feb 2018 19:17:21 +0000

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On 20/02/2018 16:42, David McCann wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:28:56 -0500 Alex Fink wrote:
> 
>> A few more minutes' thought and I realise: nouns without article 
>> are probably going to be fairly atypical in Britainese.  If all
>> the usual articles still have distinct masculine and feminine
>> forms, then that mostly erases the motivation for recharacterising
>> the noun itself for gender.
> 
> I know its a more modern development, but you have an example of this
> in Spanish, with all those nouns in -ista which can be masculine or
> feminine — la dentista / el dentista — while an older example would
> be el /la mártir.
> 

Yep, I think you're right.  Use masc. or fem. determinative, but ...

On 20/02/2018 18:07, And Rosta wrote:
> Even in English we have the compound _widowwoman_. It doesn't seem 
> too much of a stretch to think that Britainese might have "un fem 
> veuv", "un om veuv", where ambiguity might otherwise result.

Or _un femn veuv_, _un homn veuve_.  :)

That's, of course, if the indefinite article is _un_ for both genders.

> And
> 
> On 20 Feb 2018 13:57, "Raymond Brown" wrote:[snip]
>> On 19/02/2018 18:28, Alex Fink wrote:
[snip]
>>> If all the usual articles still have distinct masculine and 
>>> feminine forms, then that mostly erases the motivation for 
>>> recharacterising the noun itself for gender.
>>> 
>> Certainly demonstatives, possessive adjectives (my, thy etc), and 
>> the definite article will have distincr masc. & fem. forms. The 
>> indefinite article is usually identical with the number "one" in 
>> Romance langs, and that is likely to be _un_ /in/ for both 
>> genders.

Thanks, guys. I'll stick with the epicene _veuve_.

Ray

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