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CONLANG March 2018, Week 2

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Re: Coexistence of /ʋ/ and /w/ ?

From:

Jeffrey Joshua Rollin <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:57:35 +0000

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On 12 Mar 2018, 22:46, at 22:46, Asher Jaffe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>If you pay close attention, may people pronounce "wh" as /ʋ/ and "w" as
>/w/.  Also Spanish kind of makes the distinction.  It uses a lot of /ʋ/
>sounds (e.g. the initial sound in "huevo"), and /w/ does not naturally
>occur in the language.  However, in some English loanwords, they have
>attempted to stress the velarization in /w/ in words like "güisqui[
>
>On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:14 PM, Eyal Minsky-Fenick <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>> Apparently. This is off Tom Scott, though while he claims he uses
>[ʋ], it
>> still sounds to me like he's using a more standard /r/.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 18:03 Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
><[log in to unmask]
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 12 March 2018 at 21:11, Eyal Minsky-Fenick <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Many speakers of English apparently have this contrast, though
>the
>> > phoneme
>> > > contrast is between /r/ and /w/; the phone contrast is indeed
>between
>> [ʋ]
>> > > and [w].
>> > >
>> >
>> > Interesting, is that among those who "can't say their r's"? I'd
>never
>> > marked it out as being distinct from /w/, (but then, English
>speakers
>> don't
>> > differentiate aspirated from non-aspirated consonants, whereas
>Chinese
>> > speakers do.)
>> >
>> > Jeff.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > > Eyal Joseph Minsky-Fenick
>> > > [log in to unmask] (personal)
>> > > [log in to unmask] (school)
>> > > 203-393-1394 (home)
>> > > 203-988-2234 (cell)
>> > > 9 Birch Rd., Woodbridge, CT 06525
>> > >
>> >
>> --
>> Eyal Joseph Minsky-Fenick
>> [log in to unmask] (personal)
>> [log in to unmask] (school)
>> 203-393-1394 (home)
>> 203-988-2234 (cell)
>> 9 Birch Rd., Woodbridge, CT 06525
>>

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