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Subject:

lexicalisation in TP, was: Nine Lessons and Carols

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Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 5 Nov 2018 01:57:42 -0500

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On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 22:56:25 -0700, Christa Hansberry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:06 AM Jim Thain <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Christa,
>> If "angel voices" got rendered as  "high/lofty/holy sound" couldn't
>>  "angel' be rendered as "high/lofty/holy person/people"?
>> Personally that would work well from my point of view.
>> Jim
>>
>> That's been suggested by some, but it's a little too vague for my liking,
>especially since "jan sewi" is already in common use to mean "God" or
>"gods".

How does the contemporary Toki Pona community feel about compounds gaining fixed senses like that?

I mean, if TP were just an oligosynthetic language, there'd be nothing to object to here: you need a word for 'god' so you build it out of the components you have; then you need a word for 'angel' and you build another.  But, AIUI, when Sonja invented TP it came with a worldview, that one should let it all hang out and not care about distinctions in the world finer than those made in the base lexicon.  And the idea that _jan sewi_ is *blocked from* meaning 'angel' because it means 'God' doesn't fit in with that point of view; it's effectively sneaking a word for 'God' into the lexicon, albeit a syntactically non-simple one.

Alex

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