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CONLANG November 2018, Week 1

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Re: Nine Lessons and Carols

From:

Christa Hansberry <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 3 Nov 2018 22:59:28 -0600

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So it looks like "O Holy Night" isn't in the Nine Lessons and Carols list,
but as you said it's flexible :-).

Here's my Toki Pona translation:
http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=2480

I've tried to translate a couple other songs but usually get stuck on
anything involving angels (in the above song "angel voices" got rendered as
"kalama sewi", i.e. "high/lofty/holy sound"). "Lo, How a Rose E'er
Blooming" is one of my favorite songs, I might be able to translate it...

Christa

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:05 PM Dave Rutan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> This intrigues me.  I've neither heard of this project, nor the Nine
> Lessons.  It's possible it's just not called such in our service.
>
> In any case, this would work for my little centaur-shaped breehah aliens.
> They are open to all religions and got hold of the Bible from a visitor
> from Earth.  They don't sing in unison, but I could translate the text of
> the carols and just figure they have a Chanter do the work instead.
>
> Thanks for bringing this up.
>
> Dave Rutan
>
> I'll add this to my list of needed 'corpus' work.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Puey McCleary <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sat, 03 Nov 2018 09:50:27 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Nine Lessons and Carols
>
> If you're anything like me, you've probably been listening to Christmas
> music for a couple of months now.  Well, actually, some Christmas music I
> listen to year round.  But the point is, now that Hallowe'en is past, it's
> finally socially acceptable for me to listen to as much Christmas music as
> I want.  (I have a lot of my grandfather's old records.  The "big band"
> music I find a bit too modern for my taste, but he does have a lot of old
> Christmas records which are quite a lot of fun.  But I'm getting off of the
> point).
>
> Has anyone ever considered a Conlang Lessons and Carols project?  That is,
> a website or publication or whatever in which the Nine Lessons are
> translated into various conlangs along with a selections of carols which
> are actually singable in the standard singable way?
>
> If you don't know what "Lessons and Carols" is, I've included some
> references below.  It's also highly likely that I've brought up this idea
> before.  In fact, I probably bring it up every year at about this time.
> Some of you on this list may be thinking, "Yikes, he's bringing up Conlang
> Carols again.  Zammy take me now!"
>
> Anyway, with nine lessons and a whole bunch of carols, it shouldn't be
> difficult to get volunteers to pick this lesson or to choose one carol to
> translate, and after a month or so the entire program could be filled up
> with maybe two dozen conlangs.  (The first carol is usually "Once in Royal
> David's City," but there is a great deal of flexibility carolwise).
>
> Of course, some of our conlangs may take place in worlds that don't
> celebrate Christmas.  Well, there can always be a parallel Lessons and
> Carols for them.  I don't tell folk how to be creative; I just urge them to
> be creative.
>
> Now, since the entire Bible has long since been translated into Esperanto,
> and there are already a lot of singable Esperanto carols, my suggestion is
> that if there is one passage which no one claims, or a gap where there
> should be a carol, that there an Esperanto version can be inserted.  I know
> the New Testament was translated into Volapuk too ... and perhaps there are
> a few other translations too (Ido?  Bits and pieces of Klingon?  Helge
> Fauskanger has much of the New Testament in Neo-Quenya on his Ardalamberon
> site.  I think the nativity story exists in Verdurian, and a paraphrase of
> it in Laadan).
>
> So, this is just a crazy thought of mine.  One day I'll yap about how
> Handel's Messiah should be sung in the original Klingon.
>
> Some references:
>
> Overview of Lessons and Carols:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Lessons_and_Carols
>
> Pdf of the King's College 2015 service (other years can be found as well as
> services from other parishes and traditions, but this is just the first one
> that popped up aGoogling):
> http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/files/services/festival-nine-lessons-2015.pdf
>
> Esperanto Christmas Carols:
> http://www.oocities.org/cigneto/thcind/xmas-en.html
>
> Silent Night in many languages (including conlangs):
> http://www.silentnight.web.za/translate/index.html
>
> Just for fun, here's Silent Night in Teonaht:
>
>
> Levitil meual hloweht-jo,
> Rollyza l'ilvaz, nissilba poto;
> Ynnehil Marua la tamol tso ke.
> Hwendlwet hloweht tsob myeeht edrime.
> Admy eldrimeden edrim'f!
> Edrim'f cel eldrimeddhe!
>
> Silent and blessed night,
> bright is the night sky, all is silent.
> Behold Mary, we see her child,
> Blessed little baby in a soft sleep.
> Sleep among the angels.
> Sleep among the host of angels.
>
> And this is Silent Night in aUI:
>
> yIm yiA, kUrUm yiA
> Silent night, holy night,
>
> can yvAv, cvAv 1m fA
> all sleeps, being awake only now
>
> kUrUm b2j 1mf1m, trOvAm Ib brOm,
> holy pair alone, hoping and loving,
>
>
> kUtvu r1m ynynvu riOm:
> Godson from young girl beautiful:
>
> Ayerv rUg ag knam brU!
> rest well in heavenly peace,
>
> UyvArv rUg ag knam brU!
> sleep well in heavenly peace.
>
> yIm yiA, kUrUm yiA!
> Silent night, holy night,
>
> bosu Ov, Uf fiA
> herdsmen feel, that today
>
> knau tagepAv kna at iO;
> angels opened heaven to sight;
>
> kUO kEdev at bEn Uj kubrO:
> Glory flies to Earth as mercy:
>
> xrist ytyrv yt yrU!
> Christ saves from evil spirit,
>
> trovu ytyrv yt yrU!
> Healer saves from evil.
>
> yIm yiA, kUrUm yiA
> Silent night, holy night,
>
> brO setAv fAvm tA;
> love will give new future;
>
> kUm riOma iv jOm pfE ki
> holy Grace shines like that star
>
> daiuv 3 nUm knu Ud knam i:
> leads three wise kings by heavenly light:
>
> toepAm tvu c’ Ub kU!
> born son is of God,
>
> toepAm tvu cEv yt kU!
> born son is from God.
>
> --
> https://koplushian.wordpress.com
>

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