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CONLANG  January 2019, Week 4

CONLANG January 2019, Week 4

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Re: Brx update; recalibrating Old Albic history

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Jörg Rhiemeier <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:26:07 +0100

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Hallo conlangers!

On 25/01/19 18:24, Raymond Brown wrote:

> Salvete glossopoetae!
>
> Those who urged me to revive the briefscript project may like to know
> that the Brx (Pulushi) syllabary page has now been revised and is online:
> http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Briefscript/PhonAndOrthog.html
>
> The associated 'Objective & Design Principles' and 'No Inflexional
> Morphology' pages have been updated.  But, alas, the 'Brx Predicates'
> page is NOT revised at present.
>
> This will also mean changing references to Brx on quite a few other
> pages, which I will do as soon as I have time.

It is nice to see this interesting project make some progress! I always
liked the way you are achieving concision. Most people who try start
with a huge phoneme inventory in order to make shorter words (my own
dormant Quetch project is no exception), which makes the language
difficult to pronounce properly and inconvenient to write (for such
languages, it is most convenient just to use IPA, which I am going to do
in Quetch). But you start with such a *small* phoneme inventory and
restricted phonology that you can use the 26 letters of the Latin
alphabet as a syllabary, which means that *any* sequence of letters
yields a string of syllables complying to your phonology. A bold and
smart move! Also, it makes the language easy to pronounce, and of course
very convenient to write.

> Work on Britainese is still stalled on the spelling of /ʒ/.  :(

I am sure you will find a solution. Are <g(e)> and <j> out?

Meanwhile, I have some recalibration work to do with Hesperic, the
family Old Albic belongs to. It has turned out that in my model, I had
understood the "three Kurgan waves" wrongly. I thought that Aquan (the
hypothetical natlang family Hesperic is meant to represent) was from the
first wave, Anatolian from the second and the non-Anatolian IE languages
from the third. But it turned out that the "third wave" was just a
continuation of the second after a hiatus of about 100-200 years, and
that Anatolian is to be ascribed to the first. What this means is that
Old Albic is an IE language as much as is Hittite!

So what to do about it? Old Albic differs from PIE in a number of ways,
but I don't think the obstacles are insurmountable. It is actually not
farther from Early PIE (the common ancestor of Late PIE and Anatolian)
than, say, Tocharian is from Late PIE (the common ancestor of the
non-Anatolian IE languages). So I don't have to change Old Albic itself
much; indeed, it makes building lexicon easier because I can just draw
on the lexicon of PIE (well, I always entertained the notion that Old
Albic was *related* to IE, so there are already many IE words in it).
Yet, the prehistory of Old Albic needs to be modified as I now start
with a different proto-language (and can say good-bye to the wonky
homebrew internal reconstruction of a pre-stage of PIE I had been
working with so far).

The question remains who spoke Proto-Hesperic. It is tempting to equate
them with the Bell Beaker people, but opinions on those vary a lot. Some
say they originated from the Iberian Peninsula (where the oldest of the
eponymous vessels were found); others, from Central Europe (genetic
analysis of Bell Beaker skeletons seems to speak in favour of the
latter); yet others opine that it was just a fad for a particular style
of drinking vessel. To me it looks as if the Bell Beaker people were
nowhere the autochthonic population but a class of itinerant merchants
(trading in copper, flint, salt and other inorganic commodities not
found everywhere), whose language would not have affected the linguistic
map of Copper Age Western Europe more than Romani influenced that of
modern Central Europe. But they may have moved within a wider population
of Central European origin; after all, there *must* have been such a
population spreading the Y-DNA haplogroup R1b across Western Europe in
the Copper Age!

So in the end, the necessary adjustments are overseeable, but at least
the FrathWiki pages on Aquan and Hesperic need to be changed. The
changes necessary to get Old Albic from Early PIE are not trivial, but
it seems as if for most (if not all) of them, there are precedents
elsewhere in the family.

--
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html

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