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CONLANG  February 2019, Week 2

CONLANG February 2019, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Eye to eye

From:

Vítor De Araújo <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:38:55 -0200

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For what is worth, Esperanto usually uses the accusative for the first 
word, then a preposition and the second word in the nominative (i.e., 
the case required by the preposition; prepositions only take the 
accusative in Esperanto to mean movement towards). E.g., "paŝon post 
paŝo" (lit. "step after step"), "tagon post tago" (lit. "day after 
day"), etc. Though Wiktionary [1] says the form without the accusative 
is also common.

Now "eye to eye" specifically I'm not sure how to translate idiomatically.

[1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pa%C5%9Don_post_pa%C5%9Do#Esperanto

Vítor De Araújo
https://elmord.org/

On 12/02/2019 14:37, Aidan Aannestad wrote:
> To answer your case question, I might expect something that literally 
> translates as 'from eye to eye'. I'll hazard some guesses about your 
> other examples as well:
> 
> Side by side - 'next to side next to side' or 'next to each others' side'
> Day by day - 'from day to day' or 'through day through day' or similar
> Night after night - just 'night after night' possibly. This is a great 
> use case for reduplication if you use it, though
> Hand to hand - '(using) hand against hand'
> 
> On 2019/02/12 6:49, C. Brickner wrote:
>> Hi!In a recent translation exercise I had to translate "eye to eye". 
>> Of course a synonymous expression could be used, to agree or to 
>> disagree, but I wanted to be as close to the original as possible. The 
>> problem is that, in a language which uses cases, which are used for 
>> these two nouns? And what adposition is used? Which adposition is used 
>> varies from natlang to natlang. How do your conlangs translate "We 
>> don't see eye to eye"?And there are similar phrases:The men stood side 
>> by side.We live day by day.We heard the same sound night after 
>> night.The soldiers fought hand to hand.Any others?Thanks.Charlie

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