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CONLANG  April 2019, Week 3

CONLANG April 2019, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Alice asks a question

From:

Larry Sulky <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:46:01 -0500

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Elomi was much fun and you contributed a lot to it, Gary, I'm sure you'll
recall! Eventually I decided that I wanted something a little more compact,
so I kept much of the phonology but got away from the
leading-and-trailing-vowel structure of Elomi. The result was Qakwan, which
has been idling while I work on "Qakwan 2".

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 14:33, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Like a Swiss army knife, "kwa" could be a word of many uses, including
> "eh?" as in "A person bought that book, eh?"
>
> I seem to recall that Elomi used "uwe" as in"uwe anki osu?" Is the sky
> blue? but I don't recall all the rules for its use.
>
> (What ever happened to Elomi, anyway? I really liked that language. :))
>
> --gary
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:25 PM Larry Sulky <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > <For "Did a _person_ buy the book?" I would use "A person bought the
> book,
> > kwa?" asking for an affirmation or denial.>
> >
> > Then how would you express "Did a person _buy_ the book?" and "Did a
> person
> > buy the _book_?" I thought "kwa" was supposed to precede the thing that
> was
> > in question.
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 12:56, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > For "Did a _person_ buy the book?" I would use "A person bought the
> book,
> > > kwa?" asking for an affirmation or denial.
> > > Also, in Txúvanu (which MIGHT be the name of the language. Not sure
> yet)
> > > there is no definite article, and the for the indefinite article a word
> > > meaning such/some/any (depending on context) can, but not always does
> > take
> > > its place. Thus: "Some _person_ bought book, kwa?" or "_Person_ bought
> > > book, kwa?"
> > >
> > > As for thew possible name "Txúvan" I once heard a language teacher say
> > "You
> > > don't really learn a language, you just get used to it." So maybe I
> won't
> > > find the perfect name, but rather I'll find _some_ name and just get
> used
> > > to it.
> > >
> > > --gary
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:34 AM Larry Sulky <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Kwa" alone seems to suffice when the category of question is clear.
> It
> > > may
> > > > need further support in some other cases:
> > > >
> > > > "Where did you buy the book?" ==> "You bought the book at kwa place?"
> > > > "When did you buy the book?" ==> "You bought the book at kwa time?"
> > > > "Why did you buy the book?" ==> "You bought the book for kwa reason?"
> > > > "How did you buy the book?" ==> "You bought the book by kwa method?"
> > > >
> > > > Also, does "Kwa person bought the book?" mean "_Who_ bought the
> book?"
> > or
> > > > "Did a _person_ buy the book?"
> > > >
> > > > --larry
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:21, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Many, many years ago a friend and I were taking a particular
> > > programming
> > > > > course and decided that our project would be to write a program
> that
> > > > turned
> > > > > any random English sentence into an appropriate question. We
> thought
> > > that
> > > > > would be a trivial program. We were wrong, of course. But as I play
> > > > around
> > > > > with the grammar of the language of my Alice project, I thought it
> > > might
> > > > be
> > > > > cool if that process actually were to be trivial. Hence, the rules
> > for
> > > > > forming questions in Alice's wondersprach:
> > > > >
> > > > > A single questioning word exists. I'll call it "kwa" for now,
> > although
> > > > > doubt that will be the real word.
> > > > > Using a simple declarative sentence as a model, that questioning
> word
> > > is
> > > > > put in place of the piece of information that is being requested.
> > > > > The word order remains exactly that of the simple declarative
> > sentence
> > > > that
> > > > > would answer the question.
> > > > >
> > > > > John gave the book to Mary. -> Kwa gave the book to Mary? or John
> > gave
> > > > the
> > > > > kwa to Mary? or John gave the book to Kwa?
> > > > > The book was red. -> The book was kwa color? ("Kwa" is qualified
> when
> > > the
> > > > > desired answer is from a specific class of adjectives or nous.)
> > > > > It was a very old book. -> It was a kwa old book? (Might also be
> > > answered
> > > > > with a specific age.)
> > > > > The book was 3 years old. -> The book was kwa old? or The book was
> > kwa
> > > > > years old?
> > > > > He had three copies of the book. -> He had kwa many copies of the
> > book?
> > > > > John himself wrote the book. -> Kwa wrote the book?
> > > > > Or when confirmation or denial is request, "kwa" is appended to a
> > > > > statement: John himself wrote the book, kwa?
> > > > > You like this cake, kwa?
> > > > > You would like some more coffee, kwa?
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I'm trying to find some questions that don't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your opinion is kwa?
> > > > >
> > > > > --gary
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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