Tashe Alisova idalán pristiizhe ra-inubranyate! Ta Dorís bashova misgidarit onyazhor tsey. Uchasdji korunya ta iskemova teynifulatsyara…

Please don’t abandon Alice so quickly! The Little Prince will still be waiting for you. Doing one project at a time brings success…

Itlani Jim (Tsirea)

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From: Gary Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 7:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The Little Prince

It's tempting to give this a shot, but then again, it would distract me
from translating Alice in Wonderland.
I suppose I could always claim that The Little Prince was a warm-up
exercise for Alice. :)
I don't know. I'll have to think about it.

--gary

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:11 PM Daniel Bensen <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I have just today reached the point where I can translate those four words.
> skâli = fox
> glâbada < glâmbâ andân (briar.dat flower.acc) = rose
> barv = sheep
>
> And in a wild overreach of my present understanding of Thracian grammar...
> Domulâs = The Little Prince (lord.dim.def)
>
> "Domulâs" is actually sort of attested (Aras zea domean = "the lord of
> Araszeas"?), but the rest are generated from PIE roots shared by Greek and
> Albanian.
>
> Dan
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:56 PM Raymond Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 30/04/2019 16:31, Logan Kearsley wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 08:54, Aidan Aannestad wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 2019/04/30 8:01, Raymond Brown wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > >>> A lovely idea. I think I could 'discover' the Outidic words for
> > >>> _sheep, rose_ and _fox_.  But as Outidic is the invention of the
> > >>>  17th century eccentric, Dr Outis, there's no way I can discover
> > >>>  words for (aero-/air-)plane and other 21st century artifacts
> > >>> Pity.   :(
> > >>
> > >> I have a similar problem with Emihtazuu, which due to its in-world
> > >>  setting, should never have words for 'engine' or 'mechanic' (or
> > >> arguably 'geography' or 'grammar'!). It would be so much fun,
> > >> though; it's a shame.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe someday when my still-unnamed polysynthetic language is
> > >> usable, I'll be able to do a translation. That one's actually
> > >> meant to handle modern things.
> > >
> > > You'll just have to do a cultural, as well as linguistic,
> >
> >
> > > translation.
> >
> > I know - but I feel changing the whole thing into a plausible 17th
> > century setting would be too far from the story and feel artificial.  It
> > reminds me of some of Latin/ Grrek prose composition tasks were set at
> > scholl in the late 1950s.  A not uncommon exercise was to take the third
> > leader in Times editorial and render it in the _classical_ language,
> > making the necessary 'cultural translations' as well.  IMO too
> > artifiicial and would not do justice to Antoine de Saint-Exupéry's story.
> >
> > I'll just have to wait till either Britainese or Brx is developed enough.
> >
> > Ray
> >
>