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CONLANG  May 2019, Week 4

CONLANG May 2019, Week 4

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Re: Compound nouns and compound adj+noun

From:

Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 24 May 2019 15:10:33 -0700

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Another good candidate for compounding would be some adv+adj intensifiers,
comparatives, and superlatives:

Hypothetical example:

big = ure
very-big; bigger = maure
slightly-bigger = minure
much-bigger = mamaure
biggest = majaure




On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I like that rule of thumb. I may use it myself if you don't mind me
> stealing it from you. :)
>
> My noun roots almost always end in a consonant, with a singular (-u) or
> plural (-im) suffix, and mostly begin with a consonant, although there are
> a handful of words that do begin with a vowel. I would only need a nasal
> for a join when the second word had an initial vowel.
>
> If I join a plural noun to a consonant-initial noun I can either add a
> vowel, or drop the "m" from the ending. The singular for "rabbit" is
> "pelangu" and the plural is "pelangim". "Hole" in singular as is "walu", so
> "rabbit-hole" becomes "plenguwalu" and a hole used by more than one rabbit
> might be "pelangiwalu". I'm not sure the distinction is necessary.
>
> And I'm not sure I want the "u" sound repeated in "pelanguwalu", so I
> might just use a different vowel for a joiner, say "a" and have
> "rabbit-hole" be "pelang+a+wal+u" = "pelangawalu". I think that rolls off
> the tongue a little better.
>
> I can see uses of verb + noun joins as well. "Sleeping + room", "running +
> shoe", "moving + picture", although those examples all use gerunds which
> could be construed as nounish in that context. But of course the gerund +
> noun compound is really just an English convention. A conlang could just as
> easily have infinitive + noun as in "to sleep + room", "to run + shoe",
> etc.
>
> BTW: I was 7 when I made my first conlang, but it hardly counts because it
> was nothing more than an eloboration of pig Latin. And I'm 74 now. :)
>
> --gary
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:39 AM JD Wilson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi there. New to the group but have been tinkering with the same conlang
>> since the age of 14--I'm 53 now. At some point, I ruminated deeply on the
>> idea of "joins" in general. Noun + Noun (bookshelf), noun + verb
>> (skyscraper), and verb + verb. I can't think of a good example of the
>> latter in English, but I imagine there are. I was a Japanese major,
>> however, and Japanese makes liberal use of mash-ups of two verbs; e.g.,
>> kaku (write) + kaeru (change) = kakikaeru (re-write).
>>
>> In my own language, Nyorontu, I opted for a rule of thumb that like could
>> be joined with like. Noun + Noun or Descriptive + Descriptive. Kapta
>> (mountain) + te (tip) yields kaptante, with a nasal inserted as a join.
>> With descriptives (a class that includes both verbs and adjectives), the
>> root SSE (know) + SKE (begin) yields SSE-SKE, "to begin knowing" or "meet."
>> In a sentence: "Da lagha vosseskeg ga ogh roa kaptante." I met you on a
>> mountaintop.
>>
>> This was a very fertile area for me in terms of vocabulary building.
>>
>> JDW
>>
>

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