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AUXLANG April 1997, Week 3

Subject:

Re: The DelegationJames, I support your zeal for Ido; however,I do think that Ido

From:

Jay Bowks <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:55:38 -0400

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http://www.cheshire.net/~jjbowks/members.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3377  AUXILINGUA
http://www.cheshire.net/~jjbowks/home.html
         VINIMUS VIDIMUS DOLAVIMUS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Look Julian, I'm happy for you if you finally agreed with
something Bruce said.  He's a cool guy and all and I appreciate
his experience on Interlinguistics.

But when you start quoting me and then make mention of splittists,
hey, your barking up the wrong tree my dear pal...

I appreciate the changes Ido brought to Eo, I appreciate the hard
work of the folks putting up the info on Ido on the Web... but
I still feel that Ido could benefit from some improvements, if you
wish to discuss these as I feel, well my personal email address is
posted above and please feel free to inquire...

I beg your pardon Pardoe if I somehow stepped on your toes, I have
not read many postings of yours and don't quite know where you're
comming from, I've been on Auxlang only for a few months.  If you
are so hot about Ido, more power to you, keep up the good work, I
do hope Ido enjoys a good representation on the Web.  I am doing
what I can for Interlingua, myself, while trying to help, but
admittedly at times hindering unintentionally progress with Novial
97, I do think this has a chance... But I admit, Ido is prettier.

Essentially, Ido is wildflower growing on the dead stump of Esperanto,
let's water it a little...

Since,
Jay B.
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> de: Julian Pardoe LADS LDN X8164 <[log in to unmask]>
> a: Multiple recipients of list AUXLANG <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The DelegationJames, I support your zeal for Ido; however,I
do think that Ido
> Date: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 6:53 AM
>
> BRG wrote:
> > ... The notorious S. R. Dalton ...
>
> My God!  BRG and I agree on something!!  I'm shocked!!!  (For those
> of you who live in the UK that's a bit like finding yourself agree-
> ing with Roger Scruton -- another nasty surprise I had once.)
>
> ....but seriously:
>
> Leo Moser said:
> > Don't expect legions to come. But it would be very nice for Ido's
> > linguistic merits to be before all interested in the IAL movement.
>
> Yes!!  As I have said before, Ido embodies in practical form a
> theory critical of Esperanto's word-building (the old 'kombo'/
> 'broso' issue).  Esperantist typically dismiss this as "unworkable",
> without I guess really knowing what they're talking about.  (This really
> pisses me off: Eists should know all to well how irritating it is when
> people make sweeping criticisms of things they know nothing about.)
>
> So, now there are some Idists amongst us, let's please have a bit of
> information about the principo di retroformado and how it works
> in practice.  This and the old linguistic arguments in Eo (neceso k
> suficho etc.) are probably relevant to all aux-langs of the "semi-
> schematic" type (e.g. Eo, Ido, Novial but not Interlingua).
>
> Jay Bowks added:
> > James, I support your zeal for Ido; however, I do think that Ido
> > could use some improvement, pretty as it is though, and I would
> > hope that the Ido community as it is today would welcome the
> > suggestions of linguists of today from round the World (Wide Web)
> > who would like to see an auxiliary language succeed.
>
> Oh dear.  Here we go again!   Goodbye Ido.  Hello Idido, Ididido, ...
> Down with splittists!!!!   Let's stop quibbling about petty details
> and start using these languages.   Then we might know what we're
> talking about.  IAL design is a kind of engineering and involves
> compromises.  No "perfect" IAL can be constructed and it will
> never be possible to please everyone.
>
> ...but if those Idists don't change that disgusting "kin", that
> blot of the whole series of digits, then obviously the whole
> project is seriously flawed and can't be taken seriously[*]
>
> -- jP --
>
> [*] Copyright (C) BRG: 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1990,
> 1989, 1988, 1987, ... Sorry Bruce!

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