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AUXLANG  June 1997, Week 2

AUXLANG June 1997, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Le secreto es le littera J! (Re: Let's have an end to this nonsense)

From:

"Ensjo (Emerson José Silveira da Costa)" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:02:08 -0300

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Dan McGinn-Combs ha scripte:
> >>        baldau`=B4      baldaw
> >>        patroj          patroy
> >>        c^evalo         tjevalo o/or cjevalo
> >>        g^ardeno        djardeno
> >>        h^oro           khoro
> >>        s^erci          sjerci
> >>
> >>(Que pensa le esperantistas?)
> =

> At a younger age than I am now, I was intrigued by the 's' sound in the=

> English word 'sugar'.  It is also pronounced /s^/.  I concluded that th=
e
> /yu/ sound of the succeeding vowel must be the culprit and went on to f=
ind
> multiple examples of such palatized consonants.
> =

> I'm not sure there is great value here over the existing optional forms=
 of
> the offending consonants in Esperanto.  In the Fundamento (calm down,
> everybody, I'm not going to branch off into that 'netushebla' discussio=
n!),
> Zamenhof himself indicates that digraphs may be used for c^, g^, h^, j^=
 and
> s^.  I have read that he and others expected there to be _advances_ in =
the
> typewriting technology which would allow these characters to be formed
> simply and universally.  But until then, digraphs would have to suffice=
=2E
> =

> I'm sure that in 1887 no one expected the Internet (or the Spanish
> Inquisition for that matter :->) to become the mode de la temps with it=
s
> predictable English-biased baggage.

Actualmente <as for today> nos usa ASCII de 8 bits, con solo 256
combinationes possibile, del qual le prime 128 habe ja <already> un
ASCII standard. In le altere 128 positiones, nos debe poner characteres
usate in omne <all> linguas (=A7=A9=AE=D7=F7=B0=91=92=93=94), le accentos=
 isolate (=98=A8=B4=B8)...
Pauc <little/not much> spatio resta pro le litteras accentuate del varie
linguas. E assi le linguas artificial, con su parve <little/not big>
quantitate de parlantes, resta foras <out>.

Si, on pote crear un "pagina de characteres" pro iste linguas. Io ipse
<I myself> habe un fonte "Times SudEuro" con litteras de Esperanto.

Ma le problema solo sera <will be> resolvite quando on adoptar le ASCII
de 16 bits, con 65.536 positiones pro plenar. Il habera <there will be>
spatio sufficiente pro litteras esperantic, e mesmo <even> pro le
katakana e hiragana japonese!

> >Apart from preferring "cjevalo" over "tjevalo", *gj* over "dj", and as=
 I
> >said *hjoro* over "khoro", I think that as a reform of Eo this looks
> >sensible.  The reactions of the dedicated Esperantists is all too easi=
ly
> >predictable, I'm afraid...
> =

> So now we can use 'ch', 'c^', 'cx', and 'cj' to represent the single so=
und
> /tS/.  As a reform idea, I'll put it on the shelf marked "Interesting" =
but
> it doesn't strike me as very useful over existing methods.

De facto. Infelicemente, quanto a Esperanto, mi "systema" sera solo "un
altere systema" pro augmentar le diversitate de graphias. Ma io creava
le "systema" pro mi antique projecto de lingua artificial (nunquam
<never> completate), e illo pote esser un "systema" viabile pro altere
linguas, nonne?

Salutes a totes!
-- =

   ENSJO*: EMERSON JOS=C9 SILVEIRA DA COSTA
  E-mail : [log in to unmask] [<=D8>] Brasil!
Homepage : http://www.nautilus.com.br/~ensjo/
Telephono: (091) 231-5740 // +55 91 231 5740
 UIN ICQ : 713833   [* "sj" pronunciate "sh"]

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